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[–] [email protected] 108 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I hate that. One of the reasons I dislike Samsung phones. Last phone from them was a Note 8 and unless they go back to a pure Android experience, I won’t get another. We know that isn’t happening any time soon.

Honestly I’m super over all our current choices. Im on an iPhone and while I like their privacy stuff slightly better than android, there are lots of things I don’t like.

I also hate how much metadata the big G snorts up. Even just the location data they retain is out of this world.

There just aren’t any options if you want something that doesn’t keep you boxed into a closed ecosystem or track every love you make.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (9 children)

You can get a Google pixel and sideload an operating system such as Grapheneos, and you won't have to deal with any of Google's bs spying. Highly recommend looking into it.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

I recently made the switch and it's great. Definitely takes a bit of understanding and research to know what you're getting into, though.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Straight up gambling apps too

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Samsung has been a malicious bad actor for a while now. It's not just phones; they also pulled shit like retroactively adding ads to people's smart TVs etc.

(Also, even their "dumb" products, like appliances, are designed to fail just outside warranty. If you don't believe me, take a look at my washer's spider arm, which failed catastrophically due to corrosion even though nothing else in the machine had so much of a speck of corrosion on it. Samsung is clearly capable of specifying corrosion-resistant materials and chose not to on purpose in order to create a failure point.)

Everyone should completely boycott Samsung.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Your corrosion issue is due to dissimilar metals which, when in contact with one another, begin corroding immediately. They chose those materials knowing full well what would happen.

Their appliances are absolute garbage and I've read that many repair places refuse to work on them because they're built so poorly.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Majorly infuriating.

It's not really your phone if it does things like this. This is Samsung's phone you pay for their permission to carry for a few years.

True ownership means fully possessing something and deciding how it operates including what software it runs, what data that software can access, and when it can access it. I would not be surprised if those apps had some very invasive default permissions.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (5 children)

If one of my relatives showed me this screen appearing on their phone I’d assume they have malware

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, that's where you're wrong: it's not your phone.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

One of the reasons that my last Samsung phone was an S5. Can't reload a custom ROM on them anymore to get rid of OEM shit, as far as I know. Motorolas and Pixels are good for that now.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Stab in the dark...your on tmobile.

It does this to me too. You disable the damn thing, then you get a carrier update and it reactivates and downloads stupid games no one wants.

First time it did it to me, I thought I got a virus. Come to find out...nah it's just a thing tmobile forces on you for fun.

Assholes

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (7 children)

This is the sorta shit that will likely be in the EUs sights soon. Installing applications nobody asked for because of the carrier? That sounds fucking insanely invasive. It's like Adidas installing a camera in your apartment because you bought a pair of sneakers.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's carrier based. I've had Samsung phones almost exclusively and as long as I buy unlocked I never get unwanted apps.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There is still a lot of stuff preinstalled which could be considered unwanted by a lot of people (TikTok, Netflix, Spofify, multiple MS apps, Disney+, Facebook, Meta Services, ...)

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Nah. My $2000 CAD unlocked directly from Samsung device had ads and bullshit pre-installed apps before I even inserted my SIM into it.

I returned that phone so fast. Never seen anything like that on my Pixel.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The fact that one of those is some sort of a gambling app promotes that to very infuriating! 😡

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish manufacturers didn't allow carriers to install junk on their phone.

On the other hand, this is how carriers can give you a good deal on a phone... They have to subsidise it by making deals with the companies that make apps like these.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they have to trick you by installing unwanted apps on your phone, where you don't even know it's them doing it, then it sounds more like a scam than a great deal.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Yeah I have a Samsung phone and have never had this problem so I'm guessing it's carrier stuff and op is unkowongly placing blame on the wrong company here

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (6 children)

At this point I only buy Smartphones with Android One label (Stock Android without anything changed). Samsung especially is full of bloat.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (4 children)

One of the many reasons I will only ever buy Pixel phones. No bloatware.

[–] RvTV95XBeo 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thinking about making the jump to grapheneos, the only thing holding me back is my addiction to Android Auto

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Just uninstalled this after seeing this thread. If you're on AT&T like I am the package name for Mobile Services Manager is com.dti.att and it has nothing to do with your actual mobile services. All it does is push and update bloatware. I also nuked every AT&T app that I could. I recommend everyone who has Android Studio do this to their phone its easy.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Never again Samsung. Never again.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

I wouldn't be able to handle this. Been running GrapheneOS since last year, and I don't think I could go back to anything else.

Actually started working on a GrapheneOS installation service called SwapMyOS that I think could be helpful to those who wanna install GrapheneOS but don't how.

I kick a percentage back to GrapheneOS itself to keep the project funded and running (which is the primary motive behind the project).

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Samsung is pretty much notorious for this, especially in developing countries where they bundle in every third-party service, PayLater app, shitty mobile game, etc alongside a new device. The only reason they are seen as preferable is that other companies are doing worse (see: Xiaomi).

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I would suggest this has absolutely nothing to do with a Samsung update and more than likely some form of malware.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

or carrier bloatware. Samsung has it's thingy like that (only on A series) but it installs TikTok during the setup, nothing else.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Remember when Apple put a U2 song on everyone's iPhone and people went nuts about it? How dare they do that! That was just a song.

Now companies just install whatever apps they want. And people just accept it.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Is this a regional thing? None of my Samsung phones (Galaxy Note 3, Galaxy S10 and Galaxy S23) ever installed apps like these automatically. They did come with Microsoft apps bundled in, and I believe Facebook too, but after deactivating them they never came back. Never games though.

[–] notasandwich1948 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

yes specifically a us or canadian carrier thing

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Ah... So not a Samsung thing, but a carrier thing. I should have guessed, carriers are disgusting. Nowadays it's rare where I live, but not so long ago they even got in the middle of Android updates and replaced the bootlogo with their own branding, I even know of some devices stuck on old Android versions because while the official release is available the carrier never bothered shipping the update.

I also dislike how SIM cards run independent from the main CPU and can spawn their little Java applets whenever they want, my carrier used to randomly display ads as full prompts that got in front of any other app with highest priority using the "SIM toolkit" feature of Android, which you can't disable. Only stopped after I gave them a call claiming if I see another one of those I'd report them to the consumer rights watchdog from my region.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Holy shit. The only time I'd be ok with my carrier doing that would be if I didn't have to pay them a single fucking dime. You don't get to double dip, carriers. You're already over charging for data use.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The phone legislation we actually need isn’t about batteries, it’s about software.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Might be your carrier. T-Mobile had some app like that that I had to fight a few times to get rid of.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is why I don't buy devices on contract with the carriers anymore. They're always loading extra crapware that we don't need.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Never seen or installed this nonsense on my Samsung phone. This looks to be some sort of adware or malware.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (16 children)

I just got a Galaxy S23 about 2 weeks ago. It came with Facebook and Swiftkey as well as a bunch of Microsoft Apps. But no Tiktok, Games or other crap. Even after updating the OS nothing like that had been installed.

My guess is that a lot of people do not read anything and just rush through the initial setup process, thereby confirming things like wanting recommended apps to be installed.

Also there are some mentions of rooting here. I suggest to first give adb a try. It lets you uninstall any app without rooting (including Facebook and Swiftkey in my case).

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

I have an unlocked s23 and don't have any bloatware. Is yours unlocked? Which region?

T-mobile absolutely pushed crap on my phone - it's why I went unlocked at my next chance.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm assuming you are new to Samsung? They are the kings of junk software.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This isn't from Samsung. They don't install this junk. It's from the phone carrier (ie: AT&T or Verizon). Quit spreading FUD.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (15 children)

What smartphone brand is safe to buy nowadays? It feels like every single one is terrible and anti-user.

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