We really need this.
Also for beehaw after the de-federation so they don't pollute the feed with posts with 90% of comments missing.
this post was submitted on 15 Jun 2023
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100% agree.
All of the political extremist and hate speech instances should be defederated. And Beehaw just because them defederating us creates a really bad user experience if we don't defederate them as you could respond to comments/posts by beehaw users on other instances and not realise they won't even see your replies.
But we would see our replies and could continue to discuss. Sure it would be a loss, but not completely so.
This is my mindset, and tbh I'm fine with it.
I don't know that mutual defederation is necessary, I think a clear warning that that user and users from that instance won't be able to see it would be enough. A red border on the comment with a hover tooltip explaining it seems like would work to me.
i dont see why that is such an issue, defederating beehaw seems punitive and petty
Many of the largest instances block lemmygrad. You can check by clicking the "instances link at the bottom of the page.
lemmy.world seemingly doesn't... if I understand this correctly, if my registration is on an instance that blocks lemmygrad, I would not see it even when brosing ALL?
Correct.
I honestly think that we should have major instances federated to everyone and instead of complete defederation, provide users with options to block (basically hide) content from certain instances and users from your feed. It would also be crucial to have a separate tab then for all (unfiltered) content. The thing is, one of the main problems with traditional socials is that it is so easy to create a bubble around you and not see anything outside of it. While it's OK to have personalized feed, it's also important to be able to see everything the way it is - even with marxists, stalinists, fascists and so on. Maybe having some arguments with them here and there would be good too.
The other viable option is to just leave everything as it is, and retreat to viewing only subscribed content when you feel like it
The problem with allowing spaces for fascists to exist online is when they start existing in offline groups too. If discussion was the biggest risk then there would be no harm in letting them participate.
I would love a federated and unfedrated filter.
There is a federation on/off button on kbin. It's the little triangle symbol in the upper right next to the settings gear symbol.
Good to know thank you
If it is really that much of a problem, just block the 3 biggest communities of Lemmygrad and it will be quite improbable and infrequent for you to see posts from that instance. Although, isn't easier and faster just to ignore them?
Another reason to block an instance is language. For example, https://feddit.de is a non-English language instance, I'll never interact with anything from there.
Though, perhaps that's a separate issue. Maybe users should be able to set their language(s) and content can be blocked if it's not in your language(s).
Probably best to do it hierarchically, where instances have a default language, magazines can override the default instance language, and posts can overwrite the default magazine language.
Mastodon has a language filter feature. Iโd love that here on Kbin.
You can set your language preference on lemmy at least. Not sure about kbin.
You can in your profile settings, I only allow Undetermined/English so I see no German, Italian, or whatever
I'm on Kbin, I think that feature isn't working yet. But thanks for replying, that would have helped me on another instance.
Sopuli and Beehaw come to my mind about instances that block Lemmygrad.
Interesting that everyone here wants to operate their feed on a blacklist basis. Personally I'd love the opposite, to be able to subscribe to instances or specific communities and only get content from those. The main reason I used Reddit over anything else is because it only showed you posts from subs you subscribed to.
You can set your feed to only show subscribed communities in your account settings.
yeah, this is a thing already, that's why nobody is asking for it
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Weird, it doesn't work for me for some reason, I have to manually go into the "subscribed" tab each time. Also my point about not being able to subscribe to entire instances still stands. For instance(heh) bookwormstory.social is an instance dedicated to discussing a specific book series and currently has like 5 communities, and I'd have no way of knowing when they started a new community unless I manually checked.
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kbin (kbin.social is currently working) allows individuals to block by domain. That would keep any top level memes off your /all but I think you still see comments.
Do you know where kbin shows the list of defederated instances? I can't find anything like that, there's just the modlog.
as far as I can tell, it federates with everything
this is my understanding as well
How do you block a domain on kbin? I can't seem to figure it out.
I'm not sure that's actually a thing. Maybe he means individual magazines / communities, which have a little block button next to the subscribe button in the sidebar.
Apparently it is a thing - I found out how in another thread: https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/23632/How-to-block-an-instance-on-a-personal-level
"For example, you want to block lemmygrad.ml - go to kbin.social/d/lemmygrad.ml (d for "domain") and from there you can block the whole instance (click on the ๐ซ)."
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Ahh! No (android) mobile app is yet able to access kbin, right?
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There used to be one, but it was shut down and in general the Lemmy community has (had?) a good immune system against letting these people get a foot-hold.
Well, I had to see a ukrainians-are-nazis meme on my timeline and that's not something I can just ignore. If I can't find a way to get rid of that type of vomit I can't continue using this platform. Remaining neutral always favors the oppressor.
Why are you browsing All then?
I agree with your post and want the ability to block instances for the same reason, but I just try to block all political communities and then use Subscribed and Local.
All is unfiltered by definition.
that was probably commies rather than the alt right
they also have a tendency to call folks race traitors and deny genocides
something something horseshoe
Join one of the many instances than block them then. I agree that lemmygrad is full of horrible people ever since the /r/genzedong migration there.
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I heard exploding-heads was the right wing one? I haven't actually checked it though.
Not the main one, that used to be wolfballs but it dissapeared from the net a short while ago. maybe it will come back, but it is still widely blocked.
exploding-heads is more of a right leaning shitposting site.
Ygdrassil is probably the worst I've seen so far when it comes to far-right idiots, but don't actually recommend you to check it out. The rules section alone is enough to make you vomit
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