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The club didn't cheat on their financials to get rich. The owners are already wealthy beyond what most of us can comprehend.

If proven that they indeed cheated, it was because it gave them the ability to recruit, sign, retain, and turnover their roster well above what other clubs could financially afford to do.

Jose Mourinho said the second best team in the Premier League was City's B team. It wasn't because of Pep's outstanding training techniques and in game management skills. It was because they could afford to sign the best roster in all of soccer because it is asserted they cheated on their financials to appear to be earning more revenue.

If I can type in a cheat code that lets me upgrade everything in a video games and destroy the competition, surely doesn't make me the best at the game.

Pep is a great coach but everything MC has accomplished under current ownership will be tainted if the charges are proven to be true.

Call me bitter or old school but I don't give credit to City as a club for any of their success.

Sure I give the players and Pep credit as they are undeniably brilliant. And I can't fault the fans who don't make the decisions.

But as an institution they are an oil club who spent a shit tonne of money to directly influence winning trophies, it ain't that impressive

Same as that American who won all the Tour de France races for years in a row just totally discredited now.

Yes it would. That plus the referee payments Barcelona is accused of would seriously tarnish his legacy.

Looks like no one care. Barca’s PR in the 2000’s was too good. They convinced (or to be exact: brainwashed) that they are the best, the light, the good football. Barca is more than a club, Pep invented the football, Messi in an angel and et cetra.

The brainwashing so strong people doesn’t even capable to hear that something is t correct. We saw the ref always helping them but no one care cuz bottom line is they “deserved” the win cuz they are the best and we all just need to say thank god for witnessing that wonder.

So Pep is “the humble” as opposed to Muriniho. Barca and City are corrupt but it’s ok, cus he asked the management and they told him it’s ok. It’s ok cus he is the best among the corrupt clubs.

Downvote me now if u are brainwashed and think Barca not corrupt, City are ok and the World Cup in Qatar was pure.

He's not the one that broke the rules but I'm sure he's connected enough within the club to know at least some of what they've done. Plus, with Mancini being paid via all sorts of channels, it's hard not to believe Guardiola has also benefited from their rule breaking as well. I don't think anything will come back to him as even if he's found to have been paid from various sources it'll probably go to his agent, but he definitely knows they've cheated.

His legacy would be done for if they're guilty as every single trophy won would be deemed won through cheating. He'd surely need to resign from a club that, according to him at least, told him they're completely innocent and it's merely his great leadership that caused all of their success. Any morals left in him would surely cause him to not want to be taken down with them.

His legacy of a chequebook manager, wouldn’t change

Pep Guardiola*

I've always felt that winning with City is like being the only sprinter in the 100m on steroids.

Would ruin his legacy...there's no way he didn't know what the club was doing

The one question mark for me over Pep has always been that he's only ever managed teams with a massive advantage over the rest of the league.

At Barca he had Messi and possibly the greatest playmaking team ever assembled. At Bayern.... it's obvious, and so is City.. Even at Barca B, they were normally either in 2nd or 3rd tier and that year were in 3rd tier, so were one of the best teams in the league they were in.

At City he inherited one of the best teams in the league and underperformed until he got 200m worth of fullbacks.

He's never done anything like winning the CL with Porto.

Badly, hopefully.. they should be stripped off everything and all of a sudden the hype around him would dissappear.

Honestly I don't think it does. Football fans will remember the amazing football, record points totals, trophies etc.

Just because they've spent a lot of money he still has to coach them to be as good as they have been

It wouldn't affect guardiola

Unless it was something akin to match fixing or ref buying he's in the clean. He doesn't have anything to do with the clubs finances.

The only time in his coaching career he hasn't been accused of cheating are in his bayern tenure iirc. Cheated as a player, too. I think being found guilty here too would be pretty damning, honestly. People would rightfully recognize his coaching ability in the short term, because despite cheating (hypothetically) Pep has still had a significant impact on the game. In the long term however I'd hope to see the public bin him

How would all of the big six legacies count if super league actually got punished, or we all realised it was the league saying no these clubs have to stay winning and protected and get special treatment like hello haha

Was it City or Pep who broke the rules?

If it him who did then too bad, but if he did not, in my books he'd still remain the GOAT that he is.

That's the third time this week already 😂

Lmaoooo the amount of cope in this thread by United and Liverpool fans 😂😂

Badly, hopefully.. they should be stripped off everything and all of a sudden the hype around him would dissappear.

I watch football. I shape my opinion based on the way I see his teams play. If City is found guilty is fair that they pay, however my opinion of him as a manager doesn’t change. He’s one of the best in the last 20 years.

does anyone else feel like the charges will never go anywhere and nothing will happen

If it comes out that he essentially cheated throughout his entire managerial career. All respect I have for him and any good opinions I have of him will be gone.

I watch WWE for the fake bullshit, I watch football to see a real competition.

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That being said he won't get stripped of his titles, he'll always have his money and he doesn't give a fuck what I think of him

There will always be debate as to how influential he actually has been considering each of his managerial roles have been at clubs at the peak of their powers, regardless of how they got there, and by all accounts his input kept them operating at those levels - if not beyond expectations considering he's won silverware everywhere.

He'll always be lauded as one of the greatest - any possible club biases or protections had been made and maintained at club level prior to his involvement - yes he aided them getting the plaudits during his time, but I'd argue each of the clubs he's managed would have achieved similar success regardless of who was in charge, but they would have likely had to have thrown more money to get the job done. Similarly I'd argue he could win silverware regardless of where he managed - providing they had enough to be decently competitive.

He's coached some of the greatest players of this and last generation, he's won some of the biggest trophies as a manager for every club he's coached and is widely respected by fans, clubs, players and media everywhere - in spite of whatever questions about his influence or the clubs political power/corruption.

He is and will always be known as the "Bald Fraud"