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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

4k60 fps = 0.50$ per minute RAW format = 0.05$ per photo Unlocking focal length adjustment on the lens : 29.99$

Get ready guys :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

…And for $50/month you can unlock an additional 20mp. Lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I’m starting to feel a sense of pride and accomplishment already.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

What the fuck

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

lowkey, I'm fine with this cuz like who needs this function?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

People who need 800 perfectly lined up yearbook photos or employee directory photos.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lots of people would love this feature. Prints and frames come in all sorts of different ratios, and it's handy to know your composition will sit perfectly within those ratios.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

You actually make a good point, i would love to try out shooting with wide aspect ratios

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (4 children)

paid firmware updates... wow

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Took a page from Atomos’ handbook

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Pretty sure Panasonic have done these too. I picked up a G9 a while back and there are paid firmware updates to shoot in log

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And I thought BMW were ridiculous when they offered heated seat functionality for a monthly subscription...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Tell me this isn't real, holy fuck.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

No thank you my a7 II is still going strong

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

And Sony hates that

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (4 children)

There are just two insightful comments on the PetaPixel article:

Allen Mac:

It's likely due to patent issues - patent trolls demanding outrageous loyalties for using their ideas.

Mick:

100%, I guess they’ve got some large corporate client who has asked for this feature, so they’ve done a deal with the patent owners and offered it as the patent licensing fees they wanted, plus development costs. I doubt Sony is making a profit on this feature, they’re doing it to sell more cameras.

That would make a lot of sense. I hope it is the case and not just milking it. On a body that expensive adding upcharged soft/firmware without a good cause is repulsive. Sony took a huge share of the market by dropping FF mirrorless, but with their competitors showing up ready to fight I don't think they can afford to pull this stuff off unless they get into a cabal together...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A patent makes no sense here, an overlay on a screen is something computers have done for decades. I certainly can't imagine how anyone could have a patent for something done by the bespoke hardware of each camera manufacturer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

You'd be amazed at the ridiculousness of patents. Apple has a patent for detecting phone numbers in text.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Meh, every time there's a company that makes a greedy or stupid move there's someone to comment "it's probably because of patents", but it's almost never the case.

Sometimes companies are just greedy.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Gimmie a ruler and a sharpie and I'll do it for free

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Yup. Screenprotectors are cheaper than this shit update. Although if Sony hears that you may be forced to use viewfinder if they detect an aftermarket screen guard, and disable your screen

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

pre printed gridlined screen protectors should be a thing. not like there are that many different screen sizes to have to account for

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

We used thin painters tape on our studio monitors.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah I was like there must be a practical solution for a lot of situations too, but I understand the astonishment.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Someone will crack the firmware and offer a hacked version shortly after this rolls out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They won't.

If people could hack the firmware of these companies they would've done it by now, but no one has.

Except the old Magic Lantern one from decades ago.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It’s been done for Sony cameras a while back. One of the tools that lets you get into the camera’s firmware is Sony-PMCA-RE. As far as I know this is not the only one either.

It’s not a powerful as a Magic Lantern, but that’s not the point, which is that camera firmware hacks are still going on.

As long as there is a reason and motivation someone will figure it out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Well no one has figured it out since they stopped supporting the playmemories store in cameras.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

$150 for a magic lantern feature from 10 years ago lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Cool, now I know for a fact I will never bother with a Sony camera.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Good luck finding a company that doesnt sell certain features.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

and so it starts. subscription camera ownership.

Saddest part is some idiots will pay the money.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

How much for the grip warmer?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Seems like a reasonable charge for a very niche modification that less than 1% users would ever consider using.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

They tried this before, and gave up on it.

https://www.playmemoriescameraapps.com/portal/

BMW had to back down on the heated seat subscription foolishness.

Vote with your wallets, people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

My 6d mk1 with magic lantern could do this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

don't you guys just leave some space then crop and tilt?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

bruh camera DLC fuck off sony

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Sony used to charge $9.99 for a time-lapse setting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sony better reverse this decision or own up that it’s a one off and will never happen again. I’ve been loyal to Emount for years, have about 15k worth of bodies and lenses. If they continue, I’ll selling it all and switching.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Coming soon - A7 screen protectors with various grid patterns

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Any guesses on how long before they realize this is a bad idea and walks it back?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

They’ve been doing this bullshit with like the Timelapse app. It’s Sony garbage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

This story has been bugging me for a bit because it's being told by people who have no clue what they're talking about. They're not in this specific part of the industry and they have these hot takes that are wildly uninformed.

First, this update is not for you. This is almost exclusively firmware designed for volume school portrait studios e.g. Lifetouch. $150 to update a camera is nothing compared to the time in post that custom gridlines will save. I would even wager Sony was directly asked by these companies to do this and they were like "okay but we're going to charge you."

So, you have to understand how school portrait software works. You go to a school, shoot 500 something kids against a green screen, good to go, right? No. At some point you throw those photos into cropping software (usually provided by your lab) to get all the heads in the right spot and the right size. And the cropping software has these little ovals where you're supposed to put the head and lines for the shoulders. Cool, right? Well it's a ton of work if your photos are all different, someone has to go in and adjust that after the fact. And yeah, the existing grids can more or less get you there, but with custom grids you're certain when you take the shot. They're also helpful in this specific industry because the people taking these photos aren't usually good at photography, so you can't really trust their eye anyway. Certainly not across hundreds of different people. I've been shooting for nearly 20 years and I don't think I could even be that consistent.

Anyways, how did we used to solve this problem? Viewfinder masking!

www.viewfindermasks.com

So this company would hook you up with an updated camera (like on your 5D or more likely a Rebel, in this type of photography) that had a custom grid line that was exactly what you needed it to be. And it cost something like $200.

So sony's solution is a) cheaper and b) more flexible than what the industry has been doing for the last 30 years. The exact opposite of what most people are complaining about.

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