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Despite how terrible Burnley and Sheffield United have been so far this season, what’s keeping those two managers in their jobs? At least Luton have managed to adjust to the premier league and are now getting results after a poor start

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's still only a third of the way into the season. Things can still turn around and narratives in football move fast. Everyone had Luton to go down after the first 5 games but now some are saying they could stay up after some good performances and results.

We may see some sackings around Christmas time or just after if things don't improve for either of those clubs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Burnley stuck with Dyche through many years of promotion and relegation between the Championship and Premier League. I am amazed that anyone is thinking that Kompany's position is on the line. Burnley are not the type of club to fire a manager after a poor start to the season.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's all irrelevant as soon as you get new owners. The "type" of club you are is entirely defined by who owns the club. The previous owners were not the type to sack willy nilly, doesn't mean the new owners are necessarily the same. Who do you think would be in a senior enough position to fire the manager, that has existed through the various ownerships, and has maintained a club philosophy like that? Very rarely. A DoF would do that if they retained their role across ownerships, but if you are reporting directly to the owner then the club takes its shape from the owners management style

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

JJ Watt (retired NFL player) Dude Perfect (Youtubers)

Must be other investors as well. But neither of those mentioned would seem to be driving any type of change without a clear DoF in charge.

Granted I do like both JJ and DP but I wouldn't expect them to know the complexities surrounding promotion/relegation in the EPL

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Think that JJ would know more about pro/rel than DP. His wife is a professional footballer.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We need to be doing better, but I don't see why sacking the manager who got us here after 13 games is the answer. We're improving, as long as that continues I don't see a better option.

Since you're asking the question, why are you against clubs sticking by their manager rather than pulling the trigger?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Also, at the bottom 1 win changes all the perception. Burnley for me has had so many defensive errors. Burnley in the championship last year totally dictated the tempo of the game and now they have to adjust to prem level attackers and their lack of possession. I find it hard to believe that one of the better CBs in prem history can’t improve your defense and help minimize errors.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Luton got promoted mostly due to their stingy defense last season, which bodes much better for early season in the prem.

You are right, but it's worth pointing out that Burnley conceded the fewest goals last season.

But, to your point, we managed that through domination of possession and control of games rather than hunkering down and weathering the storm (which Luton did much more frequently)