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Nope! Just decided to be a disappearing asshole for 36 hours and come back like nothing happened.

edit: thanks to all for the different perspectives. he is fixed, has all of his shots, and has his own temperature contolled kitty condo (aka the laundry room) that we put him into every night. we have a pretty good network of neighbors and pieced together his activities via security cameras. he's a mouser for sure and that is his job until he decides to retire.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Apparently I need to explain cat harnesses and how to secure them.

Cat harnesses don't hold the animal by their neck. The neck loop is only there to prevent the abdominal loop from slipping back so the cat can't slip forwards through it.

The part that makes a cat harness secure is the abdominal strap, which needs to be so tight around the cats abdomen and up against their front legs, that the cat can't pull backwards through it.

This together makes the harness impossible to slip out of either forwards, or backwards.

If you have cats slipping out of harnesses, they are either incorrectly designed, (for example, the connection between abdominal and head loops can be too long, allowing the head loop to be escaped, and thereby allowing the cat to pull its ass through the abdominal loop) or you didn't set the abdominal loop tight enough.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Like talking to a brick wall. No. That's not the case. There is no such thing as a harness that makes it "impossible to slip out". There is no engineering that can make the cat stay in it when it doesn't want to. Go and actually check it on the internet. Plenty of people with tight, well fitting, "correctly" designed harnesses, and the cat just falls through them like nothing. If still stubborn, show me a cat harness that is impossible to escape.

[–] prettybunnys 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This has got to be the dumbest hill to die on but please keep going lol.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I probably won't simply because the herd mentality here is not worth my time. I doubt any of you had any experience with harnesses, if not with cats at all.

[–] prettybunnys 7 points 9 months ago

100% I’ve never even seen a cat much less successfully harness trained two of mine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

First of all, harnesses work to some degree. They aren't perfect but that doesn't mean they don't work at all. I used one on my cat so many times, and he's only almost gotten out of it once.

Secondly, regardless of a harness working or not, that doesn't excuse letting your cat outside all willy nilly, still dangerous.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm advocating the exact opposite - don't walk your cats on harnesses and keep them indoors.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

That's fair enough, better to be safe than sorry. If anything, having a nice catio would probably be better.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Alright, I've looked it up, there is no such thing as a completely escape-proof cat harness.

Does that make me agree with your apparent stance of "no cat should ever be allowed outside in a harness, ever, because it's the same as letting them free-roam" ?

No.

Harnesses are perfectly secure way to safely taking most cats outside. Obviously, if you're dealing with an escape artist, stop doing that.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You just checked that they aren't escape proof, and then you say it is perfectly safe. No it isn't. A cat doesn't need to be an escape artist. They can get spooked, they can see pray, or decide the harness is just not comfortable to them. I specifically was talking about them pulling back on it (which you can't really prevent 100% of the time) like in this video here https://youtu.be/gvfqXeKrfbQ?si=GiDGG1SdkIo1vkgI

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

You're going to have to do a lot better than a video clip and proving that any harness can be escaped to convince me that their use is no better than allowing a cat to free-roam.

The mere use of a harness already shows the cat-owner does not want their cat out an about on its own. If it pulls it off they aren't gonna go "oh well, it'll come back when it comes back" the way outdoor cat-owners do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

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