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A question about new conscription policy: still basically voluntary? (leddit.danmark.party)
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I'm interested in the new conscription policy being proposed.

From what I've read, women would be required to register for the lottery and service would be extended to 11 months.

My current understanding is that conscription in Denmark is basically voluntary. If you say you don't want to do it, they won't pick you? How exactly does that work if there's a lottery?

And would that change with the new policy?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

comments83820 (OP) at 2024-03-16 23:21:12+00:00 ID: kv7gep5

ah okay. so someone would only apply for conscientious objector status if they get called in the lottery, right? that's not something they'd do before the lottery?

and all men currently have to participate in the lottery if there aren't enough volunteers?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Bing2004d at 2024-03-16 23:32:38+00:00 ID: kv7i3fp

Yes your understanding is correct, and the way it is now the military is filled with volunteers alone so between 0 and 10 get "forced in"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

comments83820 (OP) at 2024-03-16 23:35:11+00:00 ID: kv7igwn

that would be pretty crazy, though, right?

it's alllllmost full of volunteers, but like a handful of people -- like 10 people -- might still be forced to serve or do conscientious objector stuff?

wow, would be pretty annoying to be one of those unlucky 10?!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

razgondk at 2024-03-17 05:38:43+00:00 ID: kv8tmc3

Looking to do a hit piece, mr. 'just curious '?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

comments83820 (OP) at 2024-03-17 12:17:08+00:00 ID: kv9r0wm

lol, no. i'm not a journalist. just curious how these things work in countries that have them

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

NotMyRealUsername13 at 2024-03-17 06:24:49+00:00 ID: kv8xq5w

I haven’t actually met anyone who hated it AFTER it was over, thesay they got to chill doing something simple for a few months and that it wasn’t an awful way to spend part of a gap year.

Same with conscientious objectors who are(were?) asked instead to do something non-military for the 4 months. I think one guy worked in a kindergarten.

The few who went in for longer and took the leadership path really loved it and come out the other side with some really nice leadership tools. Our military’s leadership style is very modern and easily transfers to civilian life.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

comments83820 (OP) at 2024-03-17 12:18:54+00:00 ID: kv9r7rx

thanks!

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GladForChokolade at 2024-03-17 07:42:27+00:00 ID: kv93yvp

I served against my will. I still did my time but chose something other than the military because I refuse to carry/use weapons. You won't be forced to do that if it conflicts with your personal beliefs. I suppose that can change that option. I'm not sure exactly how it is today.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

theKrissam at 2024-03-16 23:26:18+00:00 ID: kv7h5nq

I would assume you could do it after, but I'm honestly not sure.

But all men, except those who are deemed unqualified for service, will have to participate, usually a couple months after turning 18, but it can be delayed if you're studying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

comments83820 (OP) at 2024-03-16 23:32:18+00:00 ID: kv7i1mh

and if there are enough volunteers, they just don't conduct the lottery?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

theKrissam at 2024-03-17 00:34:09+00:00 ID: kv7r680

I'm honestly not sure, but I would assume they do since it's part of a whole since not getting called in comes with a caveat that you still could hypothetically get called in in the future if a foreign nation declares war on Denmark and since the lottery is part of a whole event hosted by our military, so I assume it's kind of a "might as well" thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

NotMyRealUsername13 at 2024-03-17 06:28:36+00:00 ID: kv8y1f9

The ‘lottery’ is a number that each person gets rather early in the process. If you’re number 1, you’re going in if they need even 1 person, etc. If you’re number 119.326, you’re in the clear…

After getting your number you could still volunteer and gain the benefits given to volunteers, like preferential postings, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

imSpejderMan at 2024-03-17 07:55:58+00:00 ID: kv950el

A smart person would wait until then, yes. A kid on my team during forsvarets dag refused to take any of the necessary tests and said that he wanted to be a conscientious objector beforehand. The guy in charge of the tests tried to talk him out of it, but he wouldn’t listen. Cause of that the guy explained that he would be forced to serve x-amount of time doing public service. I drew number 2 and wasn’t called in, but I volunteered myself after. The likelihood of being forced is very low, but looks like it could change with the proposed reform.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

comments83820 (OP) at 2024-03-17 12:21:01+00:00 ID: kv9rg5h

yeah, that doesn't make any sense, given he could have just chosen to do the alternative service if actually forced via lottery?