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[–] spez 23 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Know everything else, what's "both"?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago

AFAIK non-binary can be both or neither

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The last panel on its own could be one of a few different things.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/types-of-gender-identity

Androgyne

A person who identifies as androgyne has a gender that is either both masculine and feminine or between masculine and feminine.

Bigender

A person who identifies as bigender has two genders.

People who are bigender often display cultural masculine and feminine roles.

Polygender and pangender

People who identify as polygender or pangender experience and display parts of multiple genders.

But I think Genderfluid is still correct for the last panel in the context of the comic as a whole.

Genderfluid

A person who identifies as genderfluid has a gender identity and presentation that shifts between, or shifts outside of, society’s expectations of gender.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Would you care to consider a hermaphroditic body as an option?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I think that is a separate circumstance all together. A person with multiple sex characteristics could have any possible gender identity like any other person. The whole point of gender identity is that there is no guaranteed link between a person's sex and gender. A person with multiple sex characteristics could identify as nonbinary and that is completely valid.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

There are also non-binary affirming sex surgeries as well. Even if you weren't born with both, it is still possible to have both. I think it's pretty neat how far gender affirming care has come! We're on our way to completely shedding the old conceptions of binary sex and gender despite reactionaries

[–] cookie_sabotage 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wait a minute, I can be a FUTA IN REAL LIFE?!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yup! It's a thing, if youve already got a penis I think its called something like phalus sparing vaginoplasty. That should at least point you in the right direction

[–] cookie_sabotage 5 points 8 months ago

Wow, thank you for the info!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Sure, but Loki, being a shape-shifting trickster god, can probably manage that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Yes, it is separate and i meant it as such in a 'why settle for less when you can be more' kind of way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I think that is a separate circumstance all together.

How so? They are a shapeshifter, I don't think intersex forms would be off limits if gender swapping and animals/non-humans are fine.

The whole point of gender identity is that there is no guaranteed link between a person's sex and gender.

Even more so with shapeshifters since they can change sex and form at will, like changing an outfit.

A person with multiple sex characteristics could identify as nonbinary and that is completely valid.

Still true, it's just a bit different with shapeshifters because they can change their form in ways most people can't.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How so? They are a shapeshifter, I don’t think intersex forms would be off limits if gender swapping and animals/non-humans are fine.

I was referring to human persons, not ice giant persons with shapeshifting powers. Which is what I assumed the question I was answering was referring to since they were responding to a comment I wrote that was answering a question that I assume refers to human persons.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Also even in the case of beings with shapeshifting powers, genitalia are irrelevant to gender identity.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I would say it's even more irrelevant in that case, since shapeshifters can change their body and appearance at will, as easily as changing clothes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Do we have a word with the same energy as brother and sister for bigender? Best I have it Sibling

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Yep, that sounds right.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I think both is Bigender.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

The previous four panels combined

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Something made up for attention at this point.