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given how little one vote matter, it seems to me that stripping felons of their right to vote is both petty and counterproductive if the point was to reform them into civic minded individuals ? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Also, seems kind of scary that this implies a future where so many people are in prison that their vote could actually tip the balance ?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You'd have to eliminate children and immigrants too if you did that, but those new numbers wouldn't reflect reality in most communities with so many people being excluded from the census.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Small quibble here, but illegal immigrants are absolutely counted in the census, obviously they are under-counted, but they are intended to be counted. No one is "excluded" from the census.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I was more referring to green card holders, but that's exactly my point. By excluding people based on whether they can vote or not, you get inaccurate results and make the whole process pointless.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Small quibble, but the census came up with about 331 million people, and there are almost 8 billion people on the planet. Clearly, some are excluded from the census.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hardy har.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Within my facetious response is a kernel of truth: some of those people within US borders are foreign tourists. Surely, a French high school class touring Washington DC shouldn't be counted on the census.

When someone overstays their visa, at what point do they stop being "foreign persons" and start being "undocumented Americans"? At what point is it reasonable to start counting them as our own?