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[–] [email protected] -4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

As long as almost every pollster is wrong, sure you've got a point.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't believe in polls because they all said Hilary was going to win. They also said that Trump was going to win again. Those polls mean nothing. For all I care, they're being manipulated by Russia, China, North Korea and Iran.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

For all I care, they're being manipulated by Russia, China, North Korea and Iran.

This is the silliest MAGA style conspiracy nonsense...

You not understanding polling doesn't mean they are disinformation, that's a ridiculous thing to say. Or, maybe just like now, you dismissed information that you disliked and as such had another misinformed understanding of things.

Polling aggregators like 538 said that trump had a 1/3 chance of winning and the thing about 1/3 chances is that they happen about 1/3 times!

And then trump damn near won 2020 and lost by under 12,000 votes in one state. You can't get much closer than that!

What a goof.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You're still here?

Leave, please.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is like when conservatives deny climate change because it is unpleasant.

Why do you think the polls were pretty much dead on for the 2022 midterms? Just blind luck?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Except they weren't. Every poll presented all across social media was OMG RED WAVE!! Polls are shit. The only one that matters EVER is the one on election day.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

This sounds like a you problem.

If you got your news from non social media and looked at polls, not punditry, you'd have known the most likely outcome was pretty much what happened, the Republicans won a narrow majority.

Don't blame polling for your ignorance.

Edit: If you want an interesting (okay, interesting to nerds like me) recounting of the polling in 2022:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/2022-election-polling-accuracy/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You should try stomping around the room and yelling at the screen.

Polls are shit. Only one poll counts. Even the article you posted has a self-inserted bias.

There is a 50% chance of rain today

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You should try stomping around the room and yelling at the screen.

?

Polls are shit. Only one poll counts.

If Clinton had paid attention to them, trump might not have won.

Even the article you posted has a self-inserted bias.

With what part do you disagree? They post all the methodology and results. Or are you just "this person works in polling so I can't trust them despite them laying out everything for me to see!"

You haven't presented a logical thought just "I DISLIKE POLLS" which is pretty silly.

You may not like what the polls say but that doesn't mean they aren't valid kiddo. As you grow up, you'll realize that lots of things that are unpleasant are still true no matter how much we wish otherwise. Throwing a tantrum doesn't change the validity of polling.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, Nate Silver is pissed that Rassmuessen has been purged. Golly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I've read they've been dropped, haven't seen a response from Silver. Is this a social media thing?

Edit: Though if your trying to argue that polling is inaccurate because Nate Silver has an issue with what his former outfit is doing, ooooooooh boy.

That'd be as dumb as saying rockets don't actually wor because, most of the scientists who did the pioneering work were working for the literal Nazis!