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[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Sooo... I speak French. I'm pretty rusty (though I've been trying to get it all back this year), but I speak it well enough that it would probably help me get accepted into Canada. I'm a software developer, so it's not like I'd be a drain on society, I could be very productive there.

I have my passport. My wife is renewing hers. We're getting passports for the kids this year.

For me, it's not a question of if we move, should Trump somehow win. It's when, where, and how.

We won't stay here.

Both my kids are LGBTQ+. Another Trump presidency would be a direct threat to their lives. So yeah, if he wins, we're probably going to Canada.

[–] xmunk 17 points 9 months ago

I emigrated to Canada, it's pretty sweet up here... just be aware that housing is extremely expensive and you will take a significant paycut.

Not having to worry about medical bankruptcy though... fucking priceless.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

The problem today is that immigrating to another developed country is usually really difficult unless you or an immediate family member already have citizenship of that country.

You can bypass that requirement if you throw a shitload of money at that country to let you in. And maybe Canada would let you in as a software dev if you settled in Quebec? But from what I've read in the past, unlike medical doctors, software developers aren't usually considered one of the elite professionals that bypass those immigration limitations.

But I wish you the best of luck. And as a software developer myself, I would be interested to hear from you and others on how immigration works for our profession.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

One thing in my favor, perhaps... I work for a large multinational company that already has a hefty presence up there. So I could theoretically arrive already employed.

But yeah, if Canada doesn't work out, we'll have to figure out something else - heck, maybe France itself. I've been there before and loved it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

For a developer is kinda easy to go to the EU. Search for "Blue card". If you get an offer that pays enough the requirements are less and you get faster roadmaps for permanent settelment.

The biggest problem would be to get the offer from abroad but it is doable if you're skills are inline with the market.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

French people can't pass the French test to get into Quebec lol.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

How different is France French from Canada French? Are we talking British and American English? Or is it more drastic?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

From what I understand it’s much different, you can almost certainly get by conversationally but might not academically. I only know this because I work with Quebec a decent amount and it’s anecdotal so I guess vet it properly, apparently the test is extremely hard

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I would say it's more like American English compared to Scottish English.

On paper there is few idioms that are different but in practice the accent difference range from "few interesting intonation there and there" to "barely intelligible for someone who is not used to it"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I would say it's more like American English compared to Scottish English.

On paper there is few idioms that are different but in practice the accent difference range from "few interesting intonation there and there" to "barely intelligible for someone who is not used to it"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My kid is LGBTQ. Probably a good idea to renew. My wife spoke a european language fluently (but rusty). I could maybe find an infosec job somewhere but I'm in my 50s and monolingual so idk. Not sure what countries would have us. I guess I need to figure it out pretty soon.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Ireland's pretty nice, English speaking, Americans are well liked and there is high demand for infosec people who get paid well. Not sure what our immigration laws are like for Americans though so you'd need to look into that.

Weather is fairly shit though. It's very rarely below freezing but it's also rarely above like 23C.

Housing is also very expensive and you would likely take a pay cut but get more holidays and have better employment protection.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm from Oregon, the Ireland of the United States as far as weather is concerned. It's on my list.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Ah sure you'd be right at home so :) Let's hope it doesn't come to it, eh? If it does and you're seriously considering it feel free to hit me up with any questions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Rarely above 23c (73f) sounds delightful, I spent roughly 6 years of my childhood on RAF Feltwell in the UK so I'm already somewhat familiar to the rain

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Ah sure you'll fit right in. :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

If you aren't hired by an Irish company, moving to Ireland is extremely difficult.