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Seven refineries processing Moscow’s crude in India, Turkey and Bulgaria continued exporting refined fuels to the EU.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

While this is still a big number, Russia's oil revenue both from the EU and in total has been massively reduced.

I think it's hard to argue reducing dependency on resources from a frequently hostile country is "harming themselves", especially since Russia has intentionally interrupted supply as leverage.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I overstated my point, Russia hasn't been untouched by sanctions and trade war. That said? The Eurozone slipped into a recession in June and GDP growth been flat since then, I don't know why people are trying to argue that they haven't been hurt by this. The US has orchestrated a master stroke of geopolitics. It has been able to hurt its rivals in both Europe and Russia at the same time and tricked them both into doing it to themselves and thinking its in their own interests.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The Eurozone slipped in to recession because of COVID AND the war. Not only that: Ukraine was a big shadow player in the subcontractor field. Not only that: Most European countries are already out of their recession, only Germany is struggling right now and that's also mostly because as a country relying on export, it was hurt the most. However, the growth is still around the 0,2 in the plus, so no recession either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Direct trade has reduced, but Europe is still buying Russian energy through third parties. Russia is still making record profits, third parties are skimming off top, and European public is footing the bill. Pretty good deal for everyone but Europe is seems.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

Russia's oil revenue both from the EU and in total has been massively reduced.

Not really. Although Russia revenue from the EU has been reduced significantly, they manage to open up a new market in the East that massively stabilise their gas overall revenues. Russia is nowadays redirecting its resources east and building news pipelines to meet the demand from the East e.g. China. They no longer care much about the EU market.

That was never the intention and totally unexpected outcome of the sanction. They never thought China, India and even Turkey will come to the rescue. To say EU are not affected is an understatement. The EU now has to depend on the higher price gas from the US, Germany had to abandon their green initiatives and go back to coal, and they even have to buy Russian gas at higher inflated price from middleman to circumvent their own sanction - do you really think they dont know they are actually buying Russian gas? Of course they know. But they have to because they will suffer more if they don't.