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College student put on academic probation for using Grammarly: ‘AI violation’ (nypost.com)

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College student put on academic probation for using Grammarly: ‘AI violation’::Marley Stevens, a junior at the University of North Georgia, says she was wrongly accused of cheating.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Using AI to streamline that is not cheating unless it’s an English writing class.

Using AI to streamline that is cheating if and only if the course syllabus defines it as cheating.

Also, I hate to break it to you, but somewhere between “many” and “most” college classes are writing classes in disguise, depending on your major. The ability to write well is massively important, and generative AI is prohibited for the same reason that teachers try to make sure you understand arithmetic before letting you use a calculator. The key difference is that writing is subjective and way more complex, so the best teachers can aim for is continuous improvement.

I say all this as a college student who uses AI nearly every day. A good chunk of my peers absolutely misuse it.

and its not like these AI detection tools arent snakeoil either.

Indeed, they are.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

My point is this tool exist and you cant for certain say that someone is using this tool. If you want to give someone a real education find a way to make sure they learn despite that. If you end up using AI for a nuanced essay its not going to answer that properly and a teacher would grade that as sub par work. Good work with the AI would be to act as an editor and determining if whats said is accurate and if it should be in your paper. Bad work with the AI would be to not be an editor. There is still a job the students has to do and learn.

I say this as someone who grades work handed in by students.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I totally agree, there is rarely any way to tell if (and more importantly, to what extent) student-submitted writing is AI generated. We’re probably also pretty close to AI being able to generate outstanding work while mimicking your own writing style. For this reason, in my mind, the era of take-home writing assignments is coming to a close.

I’m actually okay with this, as it will hopefully force teachers to be more creative with and involved in the learning process. One of my biggest takeaways from 12 years of grade school was that homework trends over the last few decades are patently absurd, fueled in large part by lazy teaching. I see AI as a chance to finally correct that trend.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Oh yeah if its just basic homework then coursehero and those kinda sources are the problem and to me the bigger problem is a lot of homework is lazy, its just prove you've read the texbook shit. Homework needs to get more analytical.

i believe the oppisite should happen, like take home tests, the professor knows the student is going to open the textbook and copy so make the question such that we are evaluating you to think. if you've ever had an open book advanced math course then you'll have an idea as to what homework should to become with more time window.