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It's incredible how much the prices have fallen and that's how it should be. Sure, I bought the 960 close to launch but still the difference is staggering.

The 960 Evo still chugs along albeit it's a new one because a few months after I bought it, I had to RMA it. I guess that's what happens when you are an early adopter. I lost a few hours of work when the original 960 Evo decided to stop working but it also taught me to be more paranoia with backups.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (4 children)

For over a decade I've been waiting for HDD prices to fall to 10 € per TB. Guess I'll see that in SSDs first.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yup, there’s a Linustech tip video about this. HDD prices have kinda been set in stone for a good while now

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Couldn't find it within 5 minutes of searching - therefor I accounce that such a video does not exist

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Let me see if I can find it. LMG pumps out tons of videos

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Could be hardware unboxed FAQ actually.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Are you still in there?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, maybe HDD can hardly get any more cheaper as there is little to non room for improvement while SSD can get higher NAND transistors density.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Just since I've setup a plex server (about 8 years now) midrange sizes have gone from 4->16 TBs. Personally I think the bulk of the issue is that HDD customers switched from a mix of enterprise and personal, to nearly all enterprise. Companies really don't care if a HDD is $200 or $500, so basically all high capacity drives are priced at B2B prices, not consumer

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

do you think you can link the video?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We're very close. 30TB HAMR drives are expected later this year, and 50TB a year or two later. I think HDDs will continue to present the best value for data hoarders.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

For NAS purposes that'd be delicious.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Until you would have to replace a HDD: +23 hours of nerve racking RAID repair time for 10TB drive at 120MB/s Even with some advanced (like ZFS etc.) system you can't go around the fact the HDDs are slow.

And when the HDD fails, you can't read it. It's toast. Some cheap non-volatile memory devices are like this too, but good ones go into read-only mode and you can at least attempt data recovery from them if no better option is left.

I'm liking that it is possible get cheap+good 1TB NVMe devices for less than 100€. The consumer SATA market for large SSDs (capacity over 1TB) is unfortunately quite dry. I need replacement for HDDs and even if the speed is capped by SATA bus it would be an massive improvement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That repair time is the bear. Particularly as so many consumer grade NAS device really don’t have the horsepower for it. System works great until you have to rebuild an array. When that time comes don’t plan on doing much of anything while it’s grinding for the next few days.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://youtu.be/5QH8Dj6g_Nk Might be what OP watched too. I was surprised they've gotten so cheap.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's a good point. Maybe I should upgrade my NAS to have SSD's now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

HDD probably cost more to manufacture