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here are some hyper-polluting individuals:

  • the Rolling Stones’ Boeing 767 (5,046 tonnes of CO2)
  • Lawrence Stroll (1,512 flights)
  • Thirty-nine jets linked to 30 Russian oligarchs – (30,701 tonnes of CO2)

relevant quote:

But I will say this, a movement can't get along without a devil, and across the whole political spectrum there is a misogynistic tendency to choose a female devil, whether it's Anita Bryant, Hillary Clinton, Marie Antoinette, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, or J.K. Rowling [or Taylor Swift]. And there's always gonna be people who seize on any opportunity to be misogynistic. So I would advise trans people and our allies [or environmentalists] to keep in mind, that J.K. Rowling [Taylor Swift] is not the final boss of transphobia [anti-environmentalism]. She's not our devil. The devil is the Republican Party, the Conservative Party.

Natalie Wynn (emphasis and bracket text mine)

edit: if you can’t respond to this without using the c*nt expletive it is not helping your case lmao. mods are we okay with this? in any case, please don’t feed the trolls.

edit 2/FAQ: “but why did she threaten legal action against that college kid though?” still shitty, but refer to this comment for a good explanation of the context behind that decision.

She only threatened legal action since those memes started before when her flight movements got the attention of the right in an attempt to make her less credible of a voice speaking out against trump. And knowing how batshit insane trump cultists can be and how she’s basically the single most hated person of his base I’m not surprised that she feared for her security. Those records were public for years but the legal action only happened after someone created that meme and even fox news suddenly cared about plane emissions…

and another good comment

[…] For Swift, this is legitimate fear. I don't know if you've ever experienced actual fear for your life, but it's crippling, and it effects your psyche. To experience that on a daily basis because of an app? You bet your goddamn ass I'm going to talk to my lawyers about what my options are.

sources/timeline for the above:

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I knew you weren't going to explain either what your problem is or what the solution is. In other words- not here in good faith.

You can get mad at me for guessing that you don't care about indigenous people because you want to ban all charter flights, but, again, since you won't explain the issue or the solution, all I can do is guess.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Or you could read what I wrote, and not drag actual human minorities like a meat shield into an argument about wasting resources on unnecessary personal plane trips.

I cannot out-explain bad faith racist bullshit.

"Oop! I said something reeeeeeaally racist and now no one wants to talk to me! They must be BAD FAITH. I will not think critically about this ever! Yipee!!"

I am not swifts toes. Fuck off.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I did read what you wrote. And I have no idea what you think the actual problem is or what the solution would be.

And since I've asked you to tell me and you refuse, I don't think you actually know. Hence you being here in bad faith.

By the way, I can name precisely two Taylor Swift songs, I've only heard one of them, and I didn't care for it. But I'm sure you'll say that's a lie.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

argument about wasting resources on unnecessary personal plane trips.

*argument about wasting resources on unnecessary personal plane trips. *

**argument about wasting resources on unnecessary personal plane trips. **

***argument about wasting resources on unnecessary personal plane trips. ***

You clearly are not reading, as you keep lying about me not explicitly telling you what the problem is.

Just checked the mirror, racist, still not swifts toes. Fuck off.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm not reading?

My very first comment:

she undeniably was doing it way too much and for way too short distances

So if you've agreed with me the whole time, why have you been arguing?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you cannot grok my literal first comment to you, youve been arguing in bad faith this whole time.

Im. Not. Swifts. Feet. Fuck. Off.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Again, we're in agreement. Why are you arguing with me?

I don't get it. Do you want me to not agree with you?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What is it with racists that they continue to harass people who tell them to fuck off?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Believe it or not, I don't have to do what you order me to do.

Also believe it or not, you can stop replying to me at any time. That you haven't proves that you don't actually want me to fuck off.

We'll see if you continue to prove that. All you have to do to show I'm wrong is not respond.

On the other hand, you could explain why you're arguing with me when we agree.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Cool, so the racist mod is now intentionally harassing me. Fun.

Fuck off

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for proving me correct. I'm not a mod in this community. I'm not sure why you think I am.

Also, please quote the racist thing I said. Unless that was a lie, of course. Personally, I think it was a lie. You can prove me wrong on that one too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Cool, so now the racist mod harassing me demands I stop bringing up the racist things they said, while they harass me.

Fuck off

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Are you actually trying to gaslight me into agreeing with you that I'm a mod on [email protected] and that I'm a racist? Because this is pretty pathetic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What part of fuck off do you not get

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Again, you can stop replying to me any time you want.

And I'm still not a mod here:

Note the word 'mods.' Note my name isn't there.

Are you going to continue this silly gaslighting?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wjat part of fuck off do you not get

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'll make a deal with you- I will happily fuck off just as soon as you explain why you lied about me being a mod and a racist.

Until then, I will not fuck off. Sorry. I've got a lot of time on my hands and apparently so do you, so I guess this will go on for a very long time.

Unless you explain why you lied of course.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What part of fuck off do you not get

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I know you think if you keep pasting that, it will work, but it won't.

I also know you wouldn't keep pasting that if you weren't enjoying this. After all, there is something very simple you can do if you want me to fuck off and you refuse to do it.

You like me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Cool, Im just gonna contact the mods about you straight up saying you will not stop harassing me despite repeatedly acknowledging you understand I do not want you messaging me anymore.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I thought I was a mod.

Should I contact them and let them know you've been lying about me? Calling me a racist and lying about me being a mod? Because that would be trolling.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Could you report them for me? My app keeps sending the reports to my instance admin.

They also mod a community on world, Ive contacted people over there. This is insane behavior for a mod to have

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Do I agree with Squids stance here? No. I have a different opinion and take on the entire Swift situation, at least I think. This entire thread has been wildly unclear. So while I disagree with Squid and think that he should have dropped this, it's only because you're a blatant troll. You have not adequately laid out any argument or opinion you have here. You keep expecting people to assume based off of previous comments but those comments are just as unclear.

Finding out your opinion is essentially trying to put together a jigsaw puzzle without the front cover. I have no idea what I'm supposed to be looking for. What I have found, however, is incessant piss baby behavior. You keep screaming that he's racist for literally no reason, keep just saying "mod" without clarifying that he's not a mod here, and spammed the same message over and over again when you should have blocked.

You need to grow the hell up and act like a fucking adult.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Cool, the harasser sent more harassers, awesome

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

No. You did when you came into my private messages and started harassing him and questioning his behavior on a completely unrelated community.

Unlike you, I have the capacity to block someone, especially when they're a blatantly obvious troll. Bye!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sure. I will happily fuck off just as soon as you explain why you lied about me being a mod and a racist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I will happily fuck off just as soon as you explain why you lied about me being a mod and a racist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I will happily fuck off just as soon as you explain why you lied about me being a mod and a racist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Insane anyone made you a mod, fuck off you creepy stalker

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why are you still lying about me being a mod? And now you're lying about me being a stalker.

So now I will only fuck off if you also explain why you're lying about me being a racist, a mod and a stalker. You probably should stop piling on the lies if you want me to fuck off.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fuck off, leave me the fuck alone

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Sure. I will happily fuck off if you explain why you're lying about me being a racist, a mod and a stalker.