here are some hyper-polluting individuals:
- the Rolling Stones’ Boeing 767 (5,046 tonnes of CO2)
- Lawrence Stroll (1,512 flights)
- Thirty-nine jets linked to 30 Russian oligarchs – (30,701 tonnes of CO2)
relevant quote:
But I will say this, a movement can't get along without a devil, and across the whole political spectrum there is a misogynistic tendency to choose a female devil, whether it's Anita Bryant, Hillary Clinton, Marie Antoinette, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, or J.K. Rowling [or Taylor Swift]. And there's always gonna be people who seize on any opportunity to be misogynistic. So I would advise trans people and our allies [or environmentalists] to keep in mind, that J.K. Rowling [Taylor Swift] is not the final boss of transphobia [anti-environmentalism]. She's not our devil. The devil is the Republican Party, the Conservative Party.
—Natalie Wynn (emphasis and bracket text mine)
edit: if you can’t respond to this without using the c*nt expletive it is not helping your case lmao. mods are we okay with this? in any case, please don’t feed the trolls.
edit 2/FAQ: “but why did she threaten legal action against that college kid though?” still shitty, but refer to this comment for a good explanation of the context behind that decision.
She only threatened legal action since those memes started before when her flight movements got the attention of the right in an attempt to make her less credible of a voice speaking out against trump. And knowing how batshit insane trump cultists can be and how she’s basically the single most hated person of his base I’m not surprised that she feared for her security. Those records were public for years but the legal action only happened after someone created that meme and even fox news suddenly cared about plane emissions…
[…] For Swift, this is legitimate fear. I don't know if you've ever experienced actual fear for your life, but it's crippling, and it effects your psyche. To experience that on a daily basis because of an app? You bet your goddamn ass I'm going to talk to my lawyers about what my options are.
sources/timeline for the above:
- mid 2022, the media begins scrutinizing Swift for her flying patterns
- in response, Swift’s jet drops from 19 to just over 2 flights per month
- her flights pick up slightly with the start of her massive Eras tour but still significantly less than pre-July 2022
- December 6, 2023, Swift embroiled in election conspiracy theory, basically making her MAGA’s enemy number one.
- January 30, 2024, Taylor Swift gets rid of one private jet
- February 6, 2024, news outlets first report on the cease and desist.
and
are contradictory statements
You are bending over backwards to excuse what she is doing. and its really just kind of sad.
Like i said last time. If she actually cared so much, she would just charter a jet instead. That would literally solve her whole problem, no one could track her and she would be perfectly safe. But you keep ignoring this point because it doesnt fit dumbass position you've argued yourself into where Taylor is just an innocent girl whose scared for her life 🥺 and shes just using her vast wealth to threaten people into doing what she wants because shes sooooo scaaaared.
And now you're trying to claim everyone critical of her is a conservative? You dont think there are any leftists out here criticising the billionaire for being one the most directly polluting people on the planet?
No they're not.
Empathizing with the guy who programmed it: An unprovoked, targeted campaign of rape threats, death threats and harassment (and the media/legal storm that follows) against another person, all because of some little thing you coded for fun in your free time (again, giving benefit of the doubt)? And then being dragged into all of this? Yeah, I empathize like a motherfucker .
No, I think the only people who give a shit about this are right wing concern trolls.
Based on the way you've been spelling words, it would seem you're not actually from the US. Perhaps if you lived here, you would understand the real and actual danger this kind of stochastic terrorism as we're seeing it every single day. Taylor Swift is a figure who has just recently become a major target of hate and actual legitimate death/rape threats from the right because she encouraged young people to vote (no, I wish I was kidding). I don't think she even endorsed a candidate.
The GOP is so terrified of her; this is a half-assed, stochastic call to violence against a young woman who has done nothing, and this tool has gone way far beyond basic "FAA transparency," and into tool to target and potentially ruin the lives of people who do not deserve it.
(In case anyone didn't see my previous comment: not only am I not a Taylor Swift fan, I don't think I could name more than one or two songs. And if a song of hers came on the radio, I wouldn't be able to know if it was her or not)
I'm from the US, and I can tell you the biggest threat to the US are billionaires and their special interests.
Someone of the billionaire class like Taylor Swift does more environmental damage in a year than the average US citizen does through their entire lifetime. It is completely valid to call her out on this.
But please, continue to disingenuously call all those critical of Swift a right wing troll. Always easier than acknowledging the nuance of a topic.
Then you're wrong (to nobodies surprise)
We literally had Jo Cox, a sitting MP, murdered due to stochastic terrorism, but go off like you know something.
Except use private jets so much you're co2 emissions just from private jet travel for a year is over 1,000x higher than an average person's total yearly emissions.
And are you going to have the same bleeding heart response when you learn that this started out as a guy tracking Elons jet?
Modern leftist politics is basically an attempt to draw lines of guilt that don't fit the legal definition of guilt. The leftist seeks to reach these lines of guilt further and further into the abstract, to justify further and further action against more and more seemingly innocent people. If guilt can be found somewhere in the thin web of causality emanating from a person, the leftist will treat it as if the person was caught red handed.
That is your political mission: to find ways to lay guilt on the heads of innocent people, by evoking ever-subtler forms of causal connection between a person's actions and the various injustices of the world.
"Stochastic terrorism". Differentiated from real terrorism by the lack of any involvement whatsoever in bombs, weapons, the spilling of blood, or even the intention to invoke fear. "Stochastic terrorism" is the latest in your political bent's drive to invoke criminal law against those whom you simply don't like.