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here are some hyper-polluting individuals:

  • the Rolling Stones’ Boeing 767 (5,046 tonnes of CO2)
  • Lawrence Stroll (1,512 flights)
  • Thirty-nine jets linked to 30 Russian oligarchs – (30,701 tonnes of CO2)

relevant quote:

But I will say this, a movement can't get along without a devil, and across the whole political spectrum there is a misogynistic tendency to choose a female devil, whether it's Anita Bryant, Hillary Clinton, Marie Antoinette, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, or J.K. Rowling [or Taylor Swift]. And there's always gonna be people who seize on any opportunity to be misogynistic. So I would advise trans people and our allies [or environmentalists] to keep in mind, that J.K. Rowling [Taylor Swift] is not the final boss of transphobia [anti-environmentalism]. She's not our devil. The devil is the Republican Party, the Conservative Party.

Natalie Wynn (emphasis and bracket text mine)

edit: if you can’t respond to this without using the c*nt expletive it is not helping your case lmao. mods are we okay with this? in any case, please don’t feed the trolls.

edit 2/FAQ: “but why did she threaten legal action against that college kid though?” still shitty, but refer to this comment for a good explanation of the context behind that decision.

She only threatened legal action since those memes started before when her flight movements got the attention of the right in an attempt to make her less credible of a voice speaking out against trump. And knowing how batshit insane trump cultists can be and how she’s basically the single most hated person of his base I’m not surprised that she feared for her security. Those records were public for years but the legal action only happened after someone created that meme and even fox news suddenly cared about plane emissions…

and another good comment

[…] For Swift, this is legitimate fear. I don't know if you've ever experienced actual fear for your life, but it's crippling, and it effects your psyche. To experience that on a daily basis because of an app? You bet your goddamn ass I'm going to talk to my lawyers about what my options are.

sources/timeline for the above:

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[–] Sethayy 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There's no way musk doesnt get nearly a billion death threats per day, but when your job is to be known by as many people as possible, it scales up the good and the bad.

But if either of them are having a bad day I'm sure they can dry their tears with a couple hundred dollar bills and sue some more poor people into dust (completely legally!) to make themselves feel better

[–] prole 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

I would bet my next paycheck that Taylor Swift gets at least one order of magnitude more death threats on a daily basis than Elon Musk. At least.

Let's just say there are certain demographics that tend to lash out in that manner, and they seem to overlap quite a bit with Musk fans.

And yeah dude, I get it. They're billionaires, it's hard to empathize. I agree to a point that they should shut the fuck up and just wipe their tears away with $100 bills. But in this case, when we're talking about legitimate threats against her life constantly, by people who have shown to be very capable of carrying out such threats, then I can start to see why she is doing what she's doing. Just because she's got money doesn't mean she doesn't deserve to live a life free from that kind of fear.

That's all.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Then youre losing your paycheck

[–] prole 1 points 9 months ago

Then go ahead and garnish it from George Soros

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Let's just say there are certain demographics that tend to lash out in that manner, and they seem to overlap quite a bit with Musk fans.

Have you seen data on this? Or is this just a stereotype you've adopted to understand the world?

[–] prole 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

There's plenty of data that you could find in 3 seconds if you actually wanted. The overwhelming majority of domestic terror in the US is committed by the right. See below for sources.

Conservatives don't exactly have a large playbook. This has basically been their go-to move for a while now. Probably because it often works.

Anyone that's been paying any attention whatsoever would have noticed that it's only really a specific type of person that gets the: "torment the person and their family with actionable threats 24 hours a day until their overwhelming stress and valid fear for the safety of themselves and the ones they love until they shut the fuck up and/or stop doing the specific thing they're doing" treatment...

Curiously the target always seems to be whatever the current conservatives zeitgeist is rally against. Surely just another coincidence

Shit, female Twitch streamers get these kinds of threats just for being a woman that's existing.

I can't wait until the concept of "SWATting" makes its way to conservative boomer Facebook 🙄


https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/what-nij-research-tells-us-about-domestic-terrorism;

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/far-right-violence-a-growing-threat-and-law-enforcements-top-domestic-terrorism-concern

https://www.csis.org/analysis/escalating-terrorism-problem-united-states

I consider "religious" terrorism to be conservative

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I would bet my next paycheck that Taylor Swift gets at least one order of magnitude more death threats on a daily basis than Elon Musk. At least.

I worked in video games, and at one company there were five game designers, one of them a woman, the rest men.

I think she got a death/rape/etc threat once a week. One of the other designers had never even been messaged, and another designer was also the Community Manager. So, despite one guy being the literal face of the company, the single named woman on the design team got almost every single threat.

She left the industry, which is worse for it, but I don't think anyone thought she made the wrong choice.