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Captive Labor: Exploitation of Incarcerated Workers | ACLU (www.aclu.org)

submitted 2 years ago by kamenoko to c/controversial

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Any Country that mandates that Prisoners work for little or no pay while incarcerated is supporting institutionalized Slavery.

I'm putting the ACLU argument forward as the Pro position as it is very well written and touches on all the points that I would simply be restating.

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[–] burntbutterbiscuits 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem with you starting the debate like this is that you are glossing over the fact that is prisons are inhumane shithouses that actively engage in slavery.

The fact you are making these stipulations shows that the debate is starting off so far from what is happening in reality that no good will come of the debate so it’s pointless to engage further.

[–] Hastur 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Weak attempt to derail.

[–] burntbutterbiscuits 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not really, I like your points you’re making, I’m just being honest… if we are starting the conversation in a place this far from reality I don’t honestly think it’s going to do any good

[–] Hastur 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First and foremost: OP clearly states "any country" and is trying to make a general point and therefore isn't focused to the UD prison system which I would consider unworthy of a real democracy.

Now regarding the points OP made I explained my POV and where I agree and disagree. O don't see where either OP nor me deviated from reality and you haven't given any evident or data telling us where exactly you disagree. So would you do the honour and lay out your argument?

[–] burntbutterbiscuits 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well this article is about the ACLU which I believe stands for American civil liberties union so this is about prisons in the United States

[–] burntbutterbiscuits 1 points 1 year ago

So it’s more than likely a misunderstanding… if you are talking about all countries, and I’m talking about usa (where we literally still have slavery) then there’s going to be a huge disconnect as far as what we are talking about