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Or because it's not their job to do that. Tech perpetuates this "entrepreneurial mindset" bullshit, saying that for the wage paid for your work, you are also responsible for the company as a whole. Fuck no, especially since most devs can't do shit about it. If you own a company and decide that I spend most of my productive time in bullshit meetings, you still pay me, just not for stuff you can actually sell. If the meetings start grinding my gears, I might hop over to a place where stuff makes more sense.
Workers are not there to make up for the bullshit management pulls. If your company is inefficient and mismanaged, look for the problem in management.
The moment i’m told that i’m responsible for the success of the company as a whole, i’m asking to be promoted to CEO. I’m doing my job, as hired for. No more, no less
Not to mention, in many cases, the CEO is also the CEO of something else, and is on the board of a third and fourth entity (or something like that).
How about we apply the same standard to CEOs that the rest of us fucking peons have to abide by? Because I can sure as shit focus on two jobs better than my CEO can focus on 4+ jobs, and I’ve got ADHD.
You've just described my 50 years in the workforce, jumping from job to job, only just barely anything resembling an actual career.
This “entrepreneurial mindset” is what’s making it so hard to adjust to my new role. Recently took a job that’s new to me but since I always feel responsible and will try to fix everything, I’m having a lot of trouble staying in my lane. I need to keep reminding myself, just because I can do something, doesn’t make it my responsibility, nor do I deserve the blame if I don’t swoop in to fix it.
Having clear and healthy boundaries is incredibly important here. Otherwise you're doing multiples of extra work for the same money. If they want more from you, they should also expect to pay more for you
100% agreed. It’s mostly my own brain I’m fighting though, I came from a very toxic environment and am having a hard time adjusting to life that isn’t spent under a bus.
We're in the same boat. Hope it all works out for you. You got this
Personally, I understood that sentence as mainly pointing out that you're hindered in your work.
If you don't have to perform activitism to get things changed, and you don't have to fear any kind of consequences for pointing them out, then having a good rant in a retroperspective is therapeutic, fun.
You even just considering this to be extracurricular work, already seems indicative of some problem with management to me...