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[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (21 children)

No. I'm not wasting my time, I'm sick of how this god damn society has allowed shit to be boiled down to two old fucks.

No propaganda. No influence. Just tired of this shit. And most of you are already browbeating.

[–] jack 7 points 10 months ago (15 children)

See Russia for an example as to why voter apathy won't result in the society you want. Propaganda that influences you to not vote at all is probably the most effective with respect to destroying any semblance of representative government.

It's reasonable to be upset at the state of things, but you're abdicating your civic duty for nothing. Do you really believe that will void you of any responsibility for what happens next? It certainly won't help you avoid the consequences.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There are a lot more things society could be and should be doing to better itself. It's like what I said before with people relying on karma and invisible deities to come and save them. Do they really think the power of the vote really has that much power? I mean look, we have a system in place where regardless of the popular vote (i.e where millions in number vote) can mean moot because of the points-based system that is the electoral college. We've seen this demonstrated time and time again.

If voting really mattered, we'd gone away with the electoral college a long time ago.

The fact that people hinge so much on voting as their way of thinking it's what gives them power, is truly a fool's game and it's a game we've played for years now.

My civic duty would require more than just wasting my time and effort to stick a little piece of paper down a little machine after deluding myself into thinking that the options we have right now, are the best options we've got. When I will be thinking that we should and could be doing more things than that. It's just nobody wants to and I don't see you having that kind of a vision.

[–] jack 5 points 10 months ago

You're complaining without presenting any alternatives, which is categorically unhelpful.

You're advocating for voter apathy which is supremely regressive.

If voting didn't matter, there wouldn't be such a concerted effort to disenfranchise voters, via the electoral college and otherwise.

You're not convincing me or anyone else here that you've got a sober view on this; it seems like you're hoping that accelerationism towards collapse will net a positive result. Complain all you want about voting and how imperfect it is, your vision of apathy and hopelessness is actively hateful towards anyone who wants a better world.

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