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While I was asleep, apparently the site was hacked. Luckily, (big) part of the lemmy.world team is in US, and some early birds in EU also helped mitigate this.

As I am told, this was the issue:

  • There is an vulnerability which was exploited
  • Several people had their JWT cookies leaked, including at least one admin
  • Attackers started changing site settings and posting fake announcements etc

Our mitigations:

  • We removed the vulnerability
  • Deleted all comments and private messages that contained the exploit
  • Rotated JWT secret which invalidated all existing cookies

The vulnerability will be fixed by the Lemmy devs.

Details of the vulnerability are here

Many thanks for all that helped, and sorry for any inconvenience caused!

Update While we believe the admins accounts were what they were after, it could be that other users accounts were compromised. Your cookie could have been 'stolen' and the hacker could have had access to your account, creating posts and comments under your name, and accessing/changing your settings (which shows your e-mail).

For this, you would have had to be using lemmy.world at that time, and load a page that had the vulnerability in it.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can I ask some possibly dumb questions?

  1. What is JWT?
  2. Was any private user data compromised, and if so will users be informed?
  3. Is there anything regular users can do to avoid their data being compromised? For example, not accessing lemmy on certain web browsers?

Thank you!

[โ€“] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  1. JWT stands for JSON Web Token. It's basically a way for a server (lemmy's) to put a piece of information in your browser in a way that makes sure it come from the server. It (usually) uses some form of digital signature. You can think of it as a note someone gave you with their signature, assuming said signature is very hard/impossible to counterfeit. The next time you see that person, they don't have to remember you, they just have to check the signature. If it is valid, anything written on the note is taken at face value.

When you connect to a site, there are a few steps to validate that you are who you say you are (identification and authentication). Something like inputing you login/password. Since it would be tedious to do that on every requests, the first time you give your login/password to the server (this is the simplified version, this exchange is a bit more complex usually) the server gives you that JWT. For every subsequent requests, your browser automatically send that JWT that is simple to handle but hard to counterfeit, and the server safely knows that you're whoever is written in that JWT.

  1. I assume there will be a post here when more details are known, or that this post itself will be updated. As with any online service, it's up to the service to decide if they want to communicate. (it may also be a legal requirements in some places to tell user when such an event occurs). Since we're talking about obtaining other user's authentication token including an admin, it is safe to assume that whatever an admin can see has leaked. This can range from basic user informations to more private stuff, although I am not familiar with the software behind lemmy. Note that this is a worst-case scenario; an admin impersonator could have access to anything an admin could see, it does not mean they immediately dumped everything. It depends on their motivation.

  2. Protection against this kind of stuff Compromission of the JWT can happen in many ways and I don't know which way was used. But if there's a flaw in the software used (the lemmy's client-side code, for example) there is not much you can do. JWT can leak through many things :

  • server compromission (out of your control)
  • client-side compromission (only happens when using a browser; applications that uses API should be less susceptible to that)
  • vulnerable extension: if you have browser extensions, they can easily peek into what's happening in any given page (that's their whole purpose). Malicious extensions, or extensions that allow outsider's some kind of control over them can leak data
  • browser vulnerability: keep your browser up-to-date, and (this is controversial) stick to a family of well-enough known browser. That obscure browser that have 20 users worldwide and is based on a three years old version of chromium is not the best thing to use
  • keep your data safe: only put the minimum required amount of data on any service. For lemmy, I assume an email address and your login/password is the bare minimum (well the email is already extra, but it's very convenient to have). Some services really likes to get everything they can out of you.

Basically, stay up to date and don't use shady stuff. Easy to say, I know.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

This is great thank you!

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This answered all of my questions and really helped me understand what happened, thank you so much for having the patience to walk me through it!

It sounds like using apps to access Lemmy is more secure than signing in on your mobile browser (which is what I'm currently doing.)

I tried a couple apps last week but didn't like them, I think I'll revisit that today.

Thanks again!

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

1 - jwt is the authentication cookie u get when u sign in with ur password, ur browser stores the jwt and then any further interaction authenticates using it

2 - yes, userscripts, extensions, custom frontends, apps, all apps have access to jwt

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

2 - yes, userscripts, extensions, custom frontends, apps, all apps have access to jwt

HttpOnly flag not being set? That would protect against userscript, web apps, and extensions without extended permissions being able to access it.