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Cyclist hit by driverless Waymo car in San Francisco, police say (www.sfgate.com)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Here we go. Autonomous vehicles are now mowing down cyclists.

I hope that Waymo's insurance is good!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The choice between a range of humans drivers on the roads or only good self driving cars, give me the self driving cars.

But they aren't there yet they are still being developed.

Sure you want to get rid of cars on the roads, I get that. But frankly it won't happen, ever. Trying to stop self driving cars is trying to stop a future where you don't have to worry about some driver being distracted and killing you.

Self driving cars are going to be the only thing that gets me on most of the roads that have no designated cycle lane.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'll take a good human driver over a good self-driving car. Humans can anticipate with foresight in a way that autonomous vehicles can't.

For example, there are areas or times of the day where it might be common for pedestrians to walk out from behind a parked vehicle. A good human driver would know this, and drive defensively.

A self driving car only knows how to react to what it sees. And it can often wrong in certain situations. There are quite a few videos online of Teslas wanting to steer into danger or ignoring traffic stops.

I think the only way that self driving cars can work is if they are on designated roads (I.e. highway) with no random events like human drivers, cyclists, or kids near by.

But I really think it's irresponsible for our governments to allow beta technology on public roads. There is no real accountability for when they fail. Maybe a small fine or settlement in court, but that's about it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

How do you ensure all human drivers and good ones and not distracted? That's roads I want to be on. If you know how to do that countries around the world want to hear from you.

Waymo actually seems very cautious. It's was actually a known issue especially at the start. You can also programme it to be cautious at certain points.

We are talking self driving cars, think waymo. We are not talking about lane assist, what Tesla does is irrelevant. I was also on about thr tech when it's more developed, but right now at this moment in time it is already safer than drivers in the US.