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You guys shot that down, because preventing Biden from having a win was more important.
You guys pretty much admitted the panic over the border is not a priority, that it's overblown. It's just political theater.
Those are restrictions/undoing things, not actually building anything. Nor do they actually help people.
That's some PR bullshit. All you guys are doing is outing LGBTQ youth, and destroying public education all under the guise of parental rights.
What do you mean EVs?
https://www.coloradopols.com/diary/187908/republicans-celebrate-right-to-repair-that-they-opposed
Culture war bullshit is not an example of the GOP building something up to help the average American. If you think that was a good example, no wonder the GOP never gets anything real done.
Just parroting the line doesn't make it true. The bill was shot down because it was fucking abysmal and wouldn't actually accomplish anything. It was the bare minimum democrats had to do to try and shift the blame for problems they caused and refuse to fix. Not an actual solution.
Right. Republicans were demanding it go through until the moment Trump said it was bad. But it was actually the result of it not accomplishing enough. /s
Quit fooling yourself.
Up until a week ago nobody knew what was in it, dems were only releasing bullet points. Once people read it they opposed it.
Don't worry I won't rely on you to interpret it for me.
The 4,000 number that triggers a border close doesn't close it, it only gives the option to close it.
Then there's the 5000 trigger but naturally there are exceptions.
Even those loopholes were not enough so they made sure they could ignore the mandatory closing.
Nice try at a straw man, I'm surprised you didn't go the unaccomponied minor route.
Could you point to where I said I disagree with all the exceptions, I simply listed them? If you had a desire to have a real discussion you could ask which ones I disagree with.
You might need to read up on what a straw man is, it's not just misrepresenting a position.
You seem to have missed my point about your attempted straw man. I was saying I'm surprised you didn't us the what about the kids as your straw man.
But let me guess. You're just going to cry anyway when people read it and decide that it fucking sucks?
Thats not nearly all of it, thats a tiny snippet.
Why do you automatically assume that people are supposed to agree with it by default? It's seriously that unfathomable in your mind that someone could read it and decide it isn't a good bill?
It just sounds like you have a very poor idea of what I want, in that case.
It's wild how you think constantly pretending like everyone who disagrees is too stupid to think for themselves is remotely good faith
I'm genuinely curious how you look at threads like this where he does nothing except be a total fucking condescending jackass and think "yeah, it's reasonable to have this guy deciding who's in good faith"
Gop != all conservatives. Again, not a monolith.
That bill would have made it worse.
ElectrIc vehicles. A lot of conservatives hate them and think we shouldnt be subsidizing them.
Zero explanation given, thanks. Really convincing.
So hatred of electric vehicles makes the average american better off? What the fuck are you talking about?
We webt over this in an earlier post, didnt we?
Also Im not going to pretend to fully understand ev hate, other than when assholes chop up classics to put in an ev drivetrain. I just put it in there because its usually conservatves who do it
But what does it have to do with helping the average american?
Ask them, not me.
But you're the one who brought it up as support for the claim that conservatives are helping the average american.