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Congratulations, you are now a gun control advocate. Be sure to tell your pro-gun friends and all the lobby groups that claim to represent you.
Everything that followed this sentence was just another straw man.
You also talk about an "impossibility" with the confidence of someone who doesn't care if they're wrong because it won't change their views either way.
Countries like Australia have relaxed their gun laws in order to make recreational shooting more accessible, so i guess it's not impossible at all.
What they don't do is go back to selling semi-automatic weapons to known domestic abusers and people struggling with psychosis because that's a level of complete fucking idiocy that only America's pro-gun community can hit.
Again, since you refused to answer the question:
It's also useful to point out that NZ enacted sharp restrictions after the Christchurch murders, and then realized that they were functionally useless, and have since relaxed and are on the cusp of abolishing those same laws, Because the juice wasn't worth the squeeze.
Well you see since I'm not pro-gun, I don't think in terms of "all of these murders are acceptable".
Instead, whenever the laws failed, I would look at what could have been done to prevent that failure. If there truly was nothing that could have been done and no way of knowing, I would accept that.
But nope, we're not allowed to do that with guns. We just have to accept failure after failure because there is no amount of violence that will ever make the pro-gun crowd accept minor inconvenience.
Guns sold to people with a history of domestic abuse? No change. Guns sold to people who shoot children in the head for ringing a doorbell? No change. Guns sold to people who let toddlers get their hands on them? No change.
Sorry, this can't be true since you insisted it was an impossibility and surely you wouldn't be a melodramatic liar?
So, what you're saying is that the murder rate is not important to you, because you oppose the individual ownership of firearms, regardless of whether or not they're used to harm other people. Is that correct? So when you cite the murder rate as being your reason for banning firearms, that's not your real reason at all. On the other hand, if it is your real reason, then you must have a number that you consider to be acceptable. Is it 1? 100? Or does any single person using an item or right in a way that is either illegal or harmful to other people sufficient cause to ban that <> or eliminate that right?
Nope, and you're probably perfectly aware it isn't. But I won't waste my time clarifying in a dead thread so do your pathetic little downvote and I'll see you next school shooting.