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[–] [email protected] 120 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It's not the wage. It's an enlistment bonus for shipping out to basic within a short time frame of enlisting. Meant to help fill vacancies in the Army.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nobody wants to join the military because people are tired of going to fight strangers in foreign countries they have no beef with. We're figuring out that our military is actually more of a terrorist organization with veto power in NATO.

Plus you know, people are worried about the impending climate crisis and the future water wars more than the geopolitical dick swinging the military is used to enforce.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 9 months ago (1 children)

plus all we ever hear about from vets is how this country refuses to take care of them... the abysmal state of veteran care in this country has broken the line in many traditionally long running military families. like, if big papa breadwinner of the traditional southern family comes back broken and unable to work that family just ends up on the street. that alone breaks that chain of what may have been 10 generations of military men. now think of every less extreme scenario and how common they are and how they affects the minds of those children that may have previously been gung-ho to sign up.

veterans these days have little pride over what they accomplished or failed to accomplish, the war stories are hard to make glorious sounding, they all have some severe medical issue caused by the military that the military refuses to acknowledge and/or help them with, so very many homeless veterans...

I'm not at all pro military, but even I can see how ridiculously fucked it is that a man can sign his life away to fight for a county and for that county to not even have the decency to pick him up out of the fucking dirt after...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

veterans these days have little pride over what they accomplished or failed to accomplish, the war stories are hard to make glorious sounding, they all have some severe medical issue caused by the military that the military refuses to acknowledge and/or help them with, so very many homeless veterans…

I don't disagree with your conclusion but fyi - korean vietnam and 80s conflicts vets very rarely have gung-ho battle glory stories to sell. they experienced as much trauma as iraq/afghanistan vets, there's not a lot of glory to go around. the familial tradition of service is being broken, but the service is also trying to diversify and get away from being 80%+ legacy/ mil family tradition we had in the 90s.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

i wasn't trying to be exclusive to only the most recent conflicts. this is a thing that's been developing and getting worse for a long time. i never thought anyone had any proud battle stories from those eras either. pretty much since wwii as far as i can tell...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sure, was just mislead by:

veterans these days

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

yeah, that's fair 😅 my phrasing could've been better. that was admittedly a bit of a quickdraw of a comment.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Meant to help fill vacancies in the Army.

I thought it was to help boost sales of Dodge vehicles

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago
[–] knobbysideup 29 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Not to mention clothing, housing, food are all taken care of too. Not to mention perks of military base discounts and programs.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Plus, you abandon all bodily autonomy and you might be wounded or killed.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And even if you're not, the chances of PTSD are astronomical! Not to mention the likelihood of having to do something morally reprehensible.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

hope you enjoyed music in your youth because the vast majority will come home with degrees of hearing loss, most of which the mil will assert happened away from service.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

All bonuses in my book

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

But that barely makes a difference, assuming you stay loyal to tradition and purchase a brand new Charger with 33% apy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago