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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/1874605

A 17-year-old from Nebraska and her mother are facing criminal charges including performing an illegal abortion and concealing a dead body after police obtained the pair’s private chat history from Facebook, court documents published by Motherboard show.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I dont think most people actually read the article. These women performed an abortion at 28 weeks, abortion that late in the game has always been illegal in every state.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think it's Facebook's business, nor in its best interest or ours to store those messages, either way.

Read the article again and again, and then eventually understand the meta-issue here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Facebook offers a platform to send messages. Those messages are stored somewhere. They never claimed it was end to end encrypted. If they are served a warrant they must comply. If you dont like it use a service that is end to end encrypted like Sigal or Matrix.

And by the way, if you read the article again and again, you will understand that Facebook was asked for this information because the police were told about it. Facebook simply complied with a warrant.

I cant stand Facebokk as much as the next guy, but this is a terrible example of something to get out the pitchforks. These women used an unenecrypted platform to commit a crime that has never been legal in the US. And find me another country that allows you to abort a baby at 28 weeks for non medical reasons.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why is 28 any different than 2? Tf does it matter?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

In short: Fetuses are viable outside the womb by that point, and no US state has ever allowed abortions that late into pregnancy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well at some point the fetus becomes a human and abortion becomes murder. There is a lot of debate where that line is.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Actually there is no debate. It's called a fetus until it is born. It doesn't suddenly turn into a person with superior rights because some other person suddenly decides that now the woman lost the rights to her own body.