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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I avoid the official income averager for just that reason. It skews to make things look like they aren't as bad as they really are.

If you just look at the prices of houses and labor, you get a much different story.

Back in 1960, minimum wage was $1.00/hour and the average house was $11,000.00. A high school grad could buy a house.

Or, think of it this way. The 'offical' rate tells us that $1 million in 1960 would be $10 million today.

In 1960, $1 million meant a Beverly Hills mansion, a half dozen luxury cars, and enough left over to buy a block of businesses.

Today, $10 million will get you a condo in Manhattan.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Certainly the effectiveness of a dollar has decreased, which is why this post is interesting. It includes several elements of normal life to contrast against that average income per person.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Quick history of how Conservative policies destroyed the middle class. Lyndon Johnson thought he could deliver a knockout blow to the Viet Cong with a massive build up. Instead he got caught in a quagmire. LBJ was afraid to raise taxes, so he printed tons of paper money to pay for the huge bombing campaign the Pentagon promised would wipe out the VC. Nixon ran as a pro-peace and anti-inflation candidate. He doubled down on LBJ's bombings.

Meanwhile, the old US factories were working 24/7 to supply the steel the war needed plus make enough to keep American businesses supplied. Germany and Japan couldn't buy US steel and started building their own plants. When the Arab Oil boycott hit the US was screwed twice over. We had to keep making bombs and suddenly Toyotas and VWs were a great deal. That's how we got the Rust Belt and the death of Detroit.

The War ends, inflation is still awful, and Jimmy Carter gets caught up in the Iran hostage mess. Reagan gets in and the party goes into high gear. In 1980, middle class still meant one income to pay for a family of four, even if a lot of housewives had been forced to go to work. In 1980, $1 million was still considered a great fortune. By 1992, the two job family is the norm, but thanks to Reagan's tax cuts for the wealthy $1 million is what a rich guy pays for a party.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Also the parties realign during this period with conservative southern Democrats going to the Republican party and fully embracing the idea that government is the enemy rather than a potential force for good in people's lives. The subtext being that if you're poor, it's your fault and rich white men should be left alone to run big businesses however they want.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

The new Republicans hated the Civil rights Act so much that they filled local swimming pools with concrete rather than open them up to the entire population.

https://www.nytimes.com/1971/06/15/archives/court-says-cities-may-close-pools-to-bar-racial-mix-54-ruling-backs.html

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Not sure who this was for, but it probably should have been a comment on its own. It's more about the original post than my comments.