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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The United States is too big and needs to fail

Yeah, I don't think you understand what that statement means. A government failure would absolutely lead to a significant part of the the population dying. And that would be the good outcome for a lot of folks. A whole lot more would starve to death very slowly.

I would like to see it broken up into smaller independent countries

Very, very, very few States have the experience at this moment to operate as an independent nation. Like maybe four or five. The rest would either devolve into complete chaos and with it take a significant part of the population, or be invaded which would very likely have similar outcome.

With less military so that we can stay the fuck out of other people’s business.

Yeah, there's a lot of people like it or not that have an axe to grind. And wouldn't really matter to them if the US fell apart, in fact it would encourage them to settle that chip on their shoulder.

So I'm just going to tell you, your proposal would very likely get yourself killed and everyone you love killed and pretty much everyone commenting on this story killed as well. There would be a lot of dead bodies. Just literally look at any country that began falling apart and you can see that the body count starts increasing at a rapid pace when the Government completely falls apart.

I don't understand why people think that government falling apart or civil war means that a significant part of the country's population doesn't die? There's over 8,000 years of evidence of societies collapsing equaling a shit ton of people dying. If there's people wanting to die that badly, there are better ways that do not involve 10% to 20% of the civilian population.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

A lot of people will die, but probably nowhere near a majority, but the reason for unity is the same as the reason 250 years ago: if we split up each small part will become the puppet to some foreign country.