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The propane industry is trying to dupe you | Documents and recordings obtained by HEATED detail a multi-million dollar plan to spin the fossil fuel as "clean" and "renewable" (heated.world)

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“Twenty-five percent [of people consider] natural gas to be renewable, in this millennial and gen Z bucket,” an unidentified PERC board member said. “There’s a perception out there—not reality, but that’s perception. We can attach to that for propane.”

“You can’t say natural gas is renewable,” PERC board member Leslie Woodward cautioned.

“Perception,” the unidentified board member repeated.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Natural gas isn't propane, it's methane (with some other trace stuff). Also methane can be made fairly easily by various biological processes so it is renewable. It's still not good for the environment but it is renewable.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It can be produced that way, but only in quantities of a few percent of current use. The gas you're burning is likely 99% or more fossil-sourced.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh definitely. Right now it isn't economically viable to produce methane in a renewable way when we can just get it from the ground. It's like how wood is renewable even though clearcutting old growth forests is unsustainable. We can produce methane; it is a renewable resource. We just aren't using it in a renewable way.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

It's not even that; it'll never be economical outside of a few narrow cases because it's cheaper to avoid the need for methane in the first place.