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You all remember just a few weeks ago when Sony ripped away a bunch of movies and TV shows people “owned”? This ad is on Amazon. You can’t “own” it on Prime. You can just access it until they lose the license. How can they get away with lying like this?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I mean, you can "buy" stuff in Amazon Prime Video off service. Unlike Netflix or other platforms, they will let you "buy or rent" streaming movies, which is the same as finding the movie on the Amazon storefront and buying the digital copy instead of a physical copy.

Now, does that mean they won't yank it? Not really. A digital license is a license, not a purchase. Is the word "buy" or "own" inaccurate? I'm hoping not, because like the Sony thing showed, platforms are desperate to not have the courts improvise what rights they owe the buyers on digital purchases.

I'm still buying my movies in 4K BluRay, though. And working on ripping all of them for streaming at home, now that I finally have the space.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How are you digitizing BluRays? I've not found a way yet due to the DRM on those fuckers.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Look into MakeMKV. It's "free" while in beta (in practice you need to input a new license key from their forums occasionally, so inconvenient unless you buy a real license) and can rip Blu-Rays with no issue. For ripping 4K, though, you'll need a drive that supports LibreDrive which bypasses all of the drive's built-in DRM. I personally use an LG BU40N in a Vantec external enclosure.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Awesome, thanks for the pointers! I'll look into it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

This basically, which at that point rolls all the way back around to piracy, so hey, if you find an easier way to access a comparable file maybe it's all shades of grey anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's very interesting. But do you always have to buy Blu-ray just to get digital copies? I wonder if there is other options to actually own the movies without the licensing bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

So far I don't know of any services that will just hand you a digital file of a movie outside of physical media.

I say that's a damn fine business opportunity, because I'd be all over it, but hey.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (3 children)

A digital license is a license, not a purchase.

Stop repeating copyright cartel propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

If they have access to remove the media from your library on their end, then it's a license and not a purchase.

That doesn't mean they don't owe you access to it, though. The fact that there isn't a word for "I've acquired perpetual access even if I can't back up the file itself" doesn't mean you shouldn't have the right to continue to access the media. Or to demand that right to be upheld in court, for that matter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

If buying isn't owning, then you are being scammed.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It’s not digital though. When you bought any physical media you purchased a license to view the content. You never owned the media on the disk cause that is the studios IP.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

This is like saying I don’t own my car because it’s the manufacturer’s IP.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

You have always owned your individual copy of the media on the disk!

Again, quit falling for the propaganda.