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Haier response to my feedback after Louis' YT video. (infosec.pub)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Just got this email from Haier (US) who seems to be distancing themselves from the EU division's decision to block Home Assistance.

Hello , (I changed this)

Thank you for reaching out with your concern.

The Haier brand in the U.S. is independent of Haier Europe and operates separately. hOn is the connected IOT platform for Haier Europe. In the U.S., consumers can use our open IOT platform, SmartHQ. SmartHQ does not prevent integrations with Home Assistant.

We appreciate you reaching out.

Kindest regards,

Digital Engagement Team Haier Appliances

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Independant my aching ass. Haier US is Haier corporate's (Qindao) b*tch and everyone knows it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haier

The only "smart" appliance to own is an offline appliance.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

If an appliance is really smart, it will want to stay off-line.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

lol someone who doesn't know the disaster that is IoT downvoted you over that

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's still a pretty good sign IMO. Brands won't usually distance themselves from their parent companies unless they have a good reason to.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

@RobotToaster @homeassistant
Parent company is chinese, the european branch is a sister: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haier

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Some are actually welcoming, and provide a local API. That way your air-conditioning control isn't web dependent.

Unfortunately, most are quite stupid about it, and insist on using their app. This voids any usefulness of having smart appliances. E.g. pulse a light in a room when the tumble dryer finishes or turn it on and off dependent on your rooftop solar's output.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

turn it on and off dependent on your rooftop solar's output

I love stuff like this. Turn on the dryer and put the window shades up when the sun's out.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not stupid, just greedy.

They're gonna make money from selling whatever data they can mine from your mobile device and likely selling you monthly subscriptions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Lazy would be a better description. They want the tech cred of having it be an IoT device. They also hope to leverage it to get more money. Unfortunately, the budget, and coherent drive for this isn't there. The end result is a "designed by committee" app. It ticks all the boxes, but also misses all the things that would help actually get people using it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If they were lazy they would have just not done anything and let the HA users carry on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Just because 1 department is being lazy doesn't mean their legal aren't.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

... Or has ZigBee/Z-Wave.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

or KNX. or Modbus.

Zigbee is actually not that good of a choice.