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Maybe I'm being naive but I don't think we're quite at that point yet. People angry about the 2020 election were a loud minority
Someone made a laundry list of evidence demonstrating it'll very likely be an actual thing but I can't find it anywhere. When I do, I'll post it
EDIT: AHA! I FOUND IT! It's a Reddit comment, but so it goes. Blatantly ripping off here:
For reference, they're talking about this monstrosity of a plan Trump has set up for if he takes power in November. Don't actually vote against Biden even if you support Palestine. Shit's unreal. Shit's very clear and obvious .50 cal territory.
I think it will be a civil war if Trump wins, because it will embolden the crazies, and they'll feel protected by the government to abuse and harass others, which is what they want to do anyway.
If Trump loses, these loser chucklefucks won't feel emboldened, because they won't feel protected by the government.
They're pussies, and all of us, and them, know it.
EDIT: Now that the list has dropped. Yeah, civil war if Trump wins. Basically business as usual if he doesn't.
EDIT II: To be clear, the election could still go either way. So making plans and planning Mutual Aid Networks among your peers is the best you can do for now. Hopefully they won't be needed but will help towards some real community-building.
But then rinse and repeat 4 years later.
Agreed, but between dementia and stress clearly making him more unhinged and his ill-health and advanced age: there's a good chance he won't functionally be able to run again in four years.
The positive thing about that is the cult won't let him go. Trump has already told them to reject the truth of their eyes and ears, and they've listened. Trump will happily turn on the Republican establishment, he's made the threat countless times.
Trying to replace Trump will be the party's downfall, because the voters/cult won't accept a new face, even when Trump literally fucking dies. They'll say it's a conspiracy.
People forget that Trump was an "anti-establishment" candidate. It's unlikely we'll ever have another like him again, as the establishment clearly doesn't like being bullied by him. If they could drop him and still win: they already would have.
EDIT: While there are some young conservatives, the votes for Republican swing wildly towards older people. In four years, more of these older people will have fucking died or lost their minds to dementia, and more young people will be eligible to vote. We honestly haven't had a Presidential election since COVID and there's a strong chance the polls are fucking stupid wrong (they honestly haven't been reliable since around 2004) and that Trump is going to be absolutely destroyed since he literally killed millions of his own voters. This is also arguably why the Republicans are fighting tooth and nail right now, they know that this might be their last election where they can win anything at all. They want the fix in, now, because otherwise this might spell the end of the entire party, long-term. You might call their behavior an Extinction Burst.
The optimist in me hopes you’re right, the pessimist in me is considering buying a gun, and the realist in me is practicing baseball bat-fu in a bathrobe when I wake up in a cold sweat thinking about it.
I'm hoping I'm right, too. The thing is, it's all very much up in the air. The Democrats are doing their usual plan of depressing their own youth vote by talking down to the youth and acting like any critique of Democratic policies means you must be voting for Republicans instead. It's gross, rude, and not very productive with the youth, who are largely on their side.
Mutual Aid networks is what you should be getting involved with. We don't have the skills for combat, we have other skills. All kinds of skills are needed in a civil war style situation, give your real valuable skills where they are worth something.
Also I prefer a high powered flashlight that can blind an assailant. Light is faster than bullets and only hurts those who look directly at it.
EDIT: Also, extinction bursts in children are easier to control because they're fucking children. These are organized adults with the temperament of children. Their extinction burst might not fail.
Back down the high lumen flash light rabbit hole I go
Edit: sheesh these things are bright; I think I can see the bottom
Just buy a gun, it’s super easy and will never be banned in a reasonable timeframe anyways.
Idk I have an adolescent puppy that’s been reading Fetcher in the Rye lately, their search history has large gaps, even though he never puts the phone down, just seems like a liability to even have one in the house.
do they? every time Trump doesn't show up to a presidential debate, i'm reminded; every time a state tries to kick him off the primary, i'm reminded. i'm saddened, because the Democrats gave us their most establishment candidate, but i'm reminded, that Trump still has a very rocky relationship with that establishment.
I would actually be incredibly surprised if Trump was able to run again in four years. There are a lot of reasons he probably won’t be able to (assuming he loses 2024 which is definitely a tossup right now).
"America is awful! We need radical change"
"nooo I don't actually mean it TT.."
In the Weimar Republic, the Nazis never got more than something like 30% of the vote. Fascist "loud minorities" are still incredibly dangerous.
That loud minority came very close to putting the lives of elected representatives at risk.