this post was submitted on 06 Jan 2024
795 points (99.9% liked)

196

16582 readers
1760 users here now

Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.

Rule: You must post before you leave.

^other^ ^rules^

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

A fair point I hadn't considered, but in that case AFAB/AMAB is still better than "biological male/female", since that's not even something most people know (I don't know my chromosomal, hormonal, or DNA structures, do you?).

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (3 children)

AFAB/AMAB

And what does that mean? Biological male/female seems pretty clear to me, whatever you're born with between your legs indicates which of the 2 you are...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Well, if ACAB means All Cops Are Bad, then I'm guessing AFAB and AMAB must be All Females Are Bad and All Males Are Bad.

...Or maybe ACAB is supposed to mean Assigned Cop At Birth?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Both AMAB and ACAB are the same: Assigned Cock At Birth.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Those mean Assigned Female/Male At Birth.

And they exist because despite it being assigned that way at birth, gender or sex aren't actually determined only by "what is between your legs", nor are there just two binary options, since both gender and sex are a spectrum, not simply xx= vagina=female or xy=penis=male.

Feel free to educate yourself

[–] Jumuta 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

not really relevant though, xx being biologically male/xy being biologically female are uncommon enough

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

And yet, they deserve to be included and considered. 🤯

(never mind that variation on the 3rd grade understanding of biology I described above are significantly more common than what I'm sure you're willing to acknowledge. Sex and gender are spectrums, no matter how uncomfortable that might make you or how hard you try to deny it)

[–] Jumuta 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

you should stop getting annoyed at anyone that mentions a slight thing that might suggest that they're homophobic. They're probably not.

I don't get uncomfortable over the idea of a spectrum, just annoyed when people waste time nitpicking over tiny things like this that aren't part of the actual argument/idea being presented.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

And you should really stop tone policing people making relevant points to the subject at hand, because it makes you uncomfortable, transphobe (yes, calling inclusion "nit-picking" is transphobic, no, there is no other reason for you to be dying on this hill, I wasn't even "annoyed" as you put it, just stating the obvious - this isn't my first rodeo, clown, and your reply proves me right, so.. ¯\(ツ)/¯ ).

[–] Jumuta 2 points 10 months ago

I'm not dumb enough to not see the tone of your previous comments. goodbye.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It means Assigned Male/Female At Birth, so it seems you agree.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I suppose, but using random abbreviations everywhere does not make the point any clearer

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

When the abbreviations are so commonly used that you can ask Google or Siri and get the right answer, then it's fair to assume their meaning is clear to most people

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You not knowing a term doesn't mean it isn't useful or important or crystal clear, it just means you don't know it.

So you could either educate yourself if you care, or don't, but don't try to frame the terms as the problem, or dismiss them (and by extension, the people who they apply to/benefit from their use) outright, that's just a cop-out on your end.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Yeah, totally agree with that. But as a commenter above mentioned, the difference in lifespan is probably mostly social anyway, so the whole biology aspect isn't really relevant.