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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Interesting, we the same sort of language as the US up here in Canada too, but I always assumed it was the same thing the world over. Is there a website or handbook containing ICAO standard language available somewhere? I’m curious what other differences there are

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

ICAO PANS ATM Doc 4444

It has actually been a cause of runway incursions by US-trained aircrew in the past.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That makes a lot of sense, because like I said in another comment, I’d be more likely to interpret that as “taxi into [takeoff] position and hold”, not “taxi to threshold.” Hopefully the change that comes of this is US/Canadian aviation starts using the ICAO standard phraseology.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

While I do think this is a good idea, I don't think it can be attributed as a factor in the accident. The captain of the Japanese Coast Guard had nearly 5 years under his belt and was likely much more familiar with ICAO phraseology than what is used in North America.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

You're probably right, I’m being too quick to jump to conclusions.

As an aside, I find it a little ironic that most of the world follows ICAO phraseology, yet Canada, home to ICAO’s headquarters, does not.