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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by spujb@lemmy.cafe to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone
 

edit: GUYS fuck stalin and fuck tankies, period. i understand that this community is more sensitive than most to pro-stalinist vibes, and i apologize for unintentionally twinging that nerve, but you need stop calling each other (and me) slurs

good heavens, happy new year, fuck incarceration and murder in all forms

(mods pls also do your job and help with the slurs thing)

edit2: big thank u 2 da mods for helping with the slurs thing u guys rock ๐Ÿ˜Ž ๐Ÿ’•

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[โ€“] Arkaelus@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now, I'm all for a Socialist utopia, but that guy did NOT do it right.

[โ€“] HerrBeter@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Authoritarian state =/= socialism

[โ€“] h3rm17 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes, yes it is. The dictatorship of the proletariat is by necesity authoritarian

[โ€“] Socsa 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's one theory at least. The entire issue with the concept is precisely that people take Marxist-Leninist philosophy as dogma, rather than just a specific data point in a much broader modernist political history. There are many brands of socialism which reject this thinking and hold that autocracy is not a way to liberate anyone. It's just that leftist spaces on the internet tend to be hostile to this idea because it denies them the edgy fan service they crave.

You don't understand the term. The dictatorship of the proletariat is democratic. The reason Marx used that particular term is that in his time, he felt that the bourgeois were the only ones being represented, and by forcing actual democracy, the proletariat would finally have their needs met, which would feel like a dictatorship to the bourgeois.