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[–] OnlyTakesLs 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We think it should be allowed, but 2.4 million illegals in 2023 alone is a bit much. And thats just the ones we know about. The US is 340 million people, more than likely more than 1% is here illegally.

Source for figure: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/21/us/politics/cbp-record-border-crossings.html

So yes, we agree. Probably just a matter of where to draw the line. Personally it should be strict, and the first instance of a crime, including illegally immigrating, should result in deportation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No one is illegal, they are undocumented seeking asylum that is provided by US law.

[–] OnlyTakesLs -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Common myth. The way you're supposed to seek asylum is to apply at a border checkpoint or at an embassy. And asking for asylum after you get caught illegally immigrating is a separate act from illegally immigrating.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So in other words, what I said is true.

[–] OnlyTakesLs -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you advocating for immigration in general, or illegal immigration specifically?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

My position is that the immigration system needs a gigantic overhaul to allow people to quickly, easily, and cheaply migrate and recieve asylum legally. The current system is the exact opposite in every way.

Modern republican policy instead says "fuck it, fuck them, just deport them all".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not just republicans. Obama deported more people than any other president before him.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Democrats are fuck ups on this issue too, don't get me wrong. But by and large the majority of the fault on this issue can be attributed to republicans.

[–] OnlyTakesLs -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We already have that system. The problem is we take in 19.1% of the worlds immigrants, thats over 50 million immigrants and thats simply too much. Those numbers were grabbed here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States

The solution is not illegal immigration.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Immigration is one of our country's core strengths. Don't you remember that "melting pot" stuff from civics class?

Immigrants are a net positive for the economy, and for our country, so I don't have a problem taking in as many that come. When immigrants come here, they bring their businesses with them and/or start new ones. And I like that.

[–] OnlyTakesLs -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can still screw up a melting pot by putting in the wrong stuff. Especially if you put in a lot of the wrong stuff.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's effectively what people said about every single group in the U.S.

Catholics, italians, protestants, irish, etc. Doesn't matter, there will always be somebody around to be a bigot against some group. In the end it's dumb because the melting pot is too big to really be effected. Even at 2m/year that's a 0.6% change a year. Big whoop.