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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No he probably does. Yall just can't seem to understand that immigration should be allowed, but spread out.

Yall just straight up don't want immigrants at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Who said they "don't want immigrants at all"? I haven't seen that argument made anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From your source

“illegal immigration is poisoning the blood of our nation. They’re coming from prisons, from mental institutions — from all over the world.”

It doesn't require reading between the lines but it seems like Trump is against illegal immigration. You do know there is a difference between immigration and illegal immigration don't you?

Again who has said they "don't want immigrants at all"?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

you don’t know how to read between the lines.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or maybe your DTS is so out of control you can't get past what was actually said.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you're gonna insult someone, at least get the acronym correct you jackass

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No, I'm not angry. I'm laughing at your stupidity.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Angry and petty, I hope you find happiness some day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When you demonize those who disagree with you, you invite treatment in kind.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I haven't demonized you, just observed that when you claim that Trump doesn't want any immigrants based on him saying he doesn't want illegal immigrants, your perception is off do to your TDS.

[–] OnlyTakesLs 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We think it should be allowed, but 2.4 million illegals in 2023 alone is a bit much. And thats just the ones we know about. The US is 340 million people, more than likely more than 1% is here illegally.

Source for figure: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/21/us/politics/cbp-record-border-crossings.html

So yes, we agree. Probably just a matter of where to draw the line. Personally it should be strict, and the first instance of a crime, including illegally immigrating, should result in deportation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No one is illegal, they are undocumented seeking asylum that is provided by US law.

[–] OnlyTakesLs -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Common myth. The way you're supposed to seek asylum is to apply at a border checkpoint or at an embassy. And asking for asylum after you get caught illegally immigrating is a separate act from illegally immigrating.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So in other words, what I said is true.

[–] OnlyTakesLs -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you advocating for immigration in general, or illegal immigration specifically?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

My position is that the immigration system needs a gigantic overhaul to allow people to quickly, easily, and cheaply migrate and recieve asylum legally. The current system is the exact opposite in every way.

Modern republican policy instead says "fuck it, fuck them, just deport them all".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not just republicans. Obama deported more people than any other president before him.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Democrats are fuck ups on this issue too, don't get me wrong. But by and large the majority of the fault on this issue can be attributed to republicans.

[–] OnlyTakesLs -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We already have that system. The problem is we take in 19.1% of the worlds immigrants, thats over 50 million immigrants and thats simply too much. Those numbers were grabbed here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States

The solution is not illegal immigration.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Immigration is one of our country's core strengths. Don't you remember that "melting pot" stuff from civics class?

Immigrants are a net positive for the economy, and for our country, so I don't have a problem taking in as many that come. When immigrants come here, they bring their businesses with them and/or start new ones. And I like that.

[–] OnlyTakesLs -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can still screw up a melting pot by putting in the wrong stuff. Especially if you put in a lot of the wrong stuff.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's effectively what people said about every single group in the U.S.

Catholics, italians, protestants, irish, etc. Doesn't matter, there will always be somebody around to be a bigot against some group. In the end it's dumb because the melting pot is too big to really be effected. Even at 2m/year that's a 0.6% change a year. Big whoop.