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A 14-year-old boy has been arrested after allegedly killing his parents and severely injuring his 11-year-old sister at their home in a rural community in Fresno County, California, on Wednesday, authorities say.

The suspect, who is not being identified because of his age, originally called the sheriff’s office after the double slaying and told them someone had broken into their house in Miramonte, attacked his family, and fled in a truck, Fresno County Sheriff John Zanoni said during a news conference Friday.

Detectives later noticed inconsistencies in the boy’s story, according to Zanoni.

“Evidence ultimately showed that he had fabricated the story of a break in and was responsible for using multiple weapons to attack his mom, his dad and his sister,” Zanoni said.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (13 children)

A lot of the laws you quoted were Canadian laws pre-2015, the article I linked was from 2019 which was to correct when you were saying previously.

Maybe familiarize yourself with the laws and when they changed, then see if you see differences because it’s hard to see what changed if you don’t know what you’re looking at.

Anyways, real world numbers from the first article I linked showed that Canada’s laws work better then the US ones.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago (12 children)

Between 2019 and 2023 the Canadian government issued a ban on "assault style weapons" including pistols shorter than 105mm in length.

Another commenter pointed out that law was to prevent them being stolen during break and enters which makes sense, but even then I've never heard of that happening. I'm sure it does in larger cities So back to the original question of did the change of law to give your newly prohibited weapons back to the government decrease crime rates?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (9 children)

Respectfully your understanding of the laws and timeline are confused.

Bill C-21 got royal assent December 15, 2023.

That’s about two weeks ago which might be why you haven’t noticed a difference.

The other article I linked from 2022 was just to do with sale and transfer of ownership.

All the laws that you stated in your original comment were all in place before 2015.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

On May 1, 2020, the Government of Canada announced a prohibition on more than 1,500 models and variants of assault-style firearms, such as the AR-15. Since then, approximately 500 additional variants of these prohibited firearms have also been prohibited.

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-safety-canada/campaigns/firearms-buyback.html

There is a link to what I'm talking about.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

On May 1, 2020, the Government of Canada announced a prohibition on more than 1,500 models and variants of assault-style firearms, such as the AR-15. Since then, approximately 500 additional variants of these prohibited firearms have also been prohibited. These firearms can no longer be legally used, imported, or sold in Canada.

As of May 1, 2020 an Amnesty Order has been in place to protect lawful owners of the now-prohibited firearms. The amnesty period is currently in effect and will expire on October 30, 2025.

Nothing has changed from your link so what are you trying to prove here?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well I'm being told I'm confused on the timeline. Sure by a year or so. All I'm trying to prove is: is the law in question as to whether it is actually reducing crime. I've asked the same question a dozen times and all I get back is hey this guy is a dumb gun nut. In retrospect I could have worded a clearer question right off the bat. No one is perfect

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The law doesn’t take effect until 2025 so how would it reduce crime now?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

People are supposed to be complying with that since 2020 since it's announced. Yes 2025 is the amnesty deadline, but if people haven't taken part now, they won't by then.

Edit: the actual buyback program doesn't take effect until 2025 when the amnesty period ends. So again, with having 2000 models of weapons now prohibited since 2020, has it made an impact on firearm crime rates? Another question to ask is whether the buyback program will reduce crime rates. Which if all these prohibited weapons are already locked up like fort Knox, what real difference will it make?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Canada’s gun crime rate is one seventh of the US’s so I think they’re doing something right.

As far as guessing if laws changing in the future will affect gun crime rates, I don’t know.

I will wait to see what the numbers say.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Nothing changed for legal owners so I’m not understanding your argument.

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