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How would you feel if Beehaw left the Fediverse? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I am one of the admins of Beehaw and I'm trying to get some feedback on our potential move.

Let's start out with a little Beehaw history before judgements are passed, please.

A handful of us were beta testing Tildes when we decided to have discussions on a Discord server.

We decided that our 'Northern Star' or guiding principle would culminate as 'Be Nice' with purposefully vague/flexible interpretations. Our overall goal is to provide a safe space to disenfranchised persons.

We talked for a little over a year and some of our members became impatient. Then someone stepped in to suggest a couple of platforms that we could consider getting started with.

One of those platforms was Lemmy. None of us knew, at that time, anything about ActivityPub.

During the Reddit exodus (surrounding the API outcry and blackout), our instance exploded. We were, initially, crippled by the mass amounts of users seeking refuge.

Thankfully, someone stepped in and volunteered hundreds of hours of work to stabilize our instance and refine it further.

After many hours of talks, it became clear to us that our overall goal could be achieved outside of Lemmy/ActivityPub.

Right now, we feel that Lemmy and ActivityPub have downsides that are limiting us from achieving that goal.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Stop it, this is a bad idea.

[–] 0x4E4F 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's actually good, they've always been the odd ball out, just defederating from instances they feel can't live up to the Beehaw standards... whatever they might be.

They should just open up a forum.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

…and? That is their right. Defederation isn’t an attack, and their standards are no mystery.

[–] 0x4E4F 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

They are to me 🤷. You start a discussion, next thing you know, you're banned... look at moderation log... "referring to women as females"... like WTF man, I was trying to make a point, not insult women 🤦. Sorry, but tiptoing with words is not my thing. This doesn't mean I don't choose my words wisely, but I just can't be bothered with little things like that when the discussion is not even about that.

Regardless, I wouldn't miss them at all, they can do whatever they like.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Honestly they're doing you a favor. Referring to women as females is creep behavior.

[–] 0x4E4F 3 points 11 months ago

I was trying to make a point 😒, not related to either of the terms.

Whatever, as I said, not gonna miss them at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy.world is as bad as Beehaw when it comes to abusing defederation. They recently defederated with sopuli an instance that i never seen a single problematic post.

[–] 0x4E4F 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yes, I do agree about that. Have no interest in having an account there either.

As it turns out, the leftist instances are the best obviously, they don't defederate with almost anyone. I knew time would prove this. But everyone defederates from them, so that's not a viable option either 🤷.

In any case, defederation is a last resort option, which I think is taken way too frequently as a first option by some instances. That's why I usually pick small obscure instances for my accounts. No one defederates from them and they don't defederate from anyone.