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In my view, systems without an HDMI output or which default to a 4:3 aspect ratio are retro. But I don’t expect everyone else to share this opinion, and that’s totally fine. 🙂
That's actually a great distinction.
Agreed cause this before ps3 and 360 which is how I see it also
Thats basically my demarcation point too.
If something can output a format a modern tv can upscale with no issues using a connection type it has then it’s not retro.
Anything that has component or hdmi output and can do 480p/i or better is just old, not retro.
The PS2, Xbox, GC, and DC can all output into something most modern TV's can understand.
The PS2 and Xbox can both output 1080i over component. The GameCube can output 480p over component. And the DC has VGA.
Im one of the ones that draws the line between the 5th and 6th gen for "retro"
Even simpler, if it was designed to work with a CRT television because that is what the vast majority of people had at the time.
The first version of 360 didn't have HDMI tho... While some versions of GC had digital video out, and PS2 could do 1080i with some games.
PS2 defaults to 4:3, digital out can be things besides HDMI, and the vast majority of 360 consoles sold had HDMI out. If you want to draw the line elsewhere, no big, do your thing, there’s no one True answer to OP’s question… but your comment feels like whataboutism to me and adds nothing of value.
Adding factual information about (potential) retro consoles in a retro gaming community adds nothing of value? Okay then.
That is a very interesting take. 4:3 games do have a certain retro feeling to them!
Fun to think that someday if USB C finishes to eradicate HDMI/DP they might become the sign that it is retro... Look at that! They had a dedicated plug for the video signal back then :)