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'The Last of Us' Was the Most-Pirated Show of 2023 (gizmodo.com)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because I'm more interested in data than opinion. Maybe they're the same, maybe they aren't; without any data to back it up, that's all it is, opinions.

When I said the numbers muddy, I'm not saying they're wrong necessarily; just that they become quite unclear. You can't be sure they're accurate because you're making assumptions to reach them.

Part of this stems from an opinion of my own however: that public torrents are a shrinking market share of piracy. More and more I see conversations dominated by streams, private torrent trackers, and usenet. That's not to say they've disappeared or ever will, but other means seem more common lately. Though that's admittedly hard to gauge.

A small slice can give you an idea of what the bigger picture may be, but the smaller the slice the less chance that idea will be accurate. Take a jigsaw puzzle for example: if I only look at 10% of the pieces I may get enough detail to figure out what the image is supposed to be, or maybe I'll only get pieces of the empty blue sky... (or is that water... I can't tell)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"This actual data isn't data. My personal anecdotes are data"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

..... No? Did you even read my comments?

This actual data is not necessarily representative of the entire situation, just a specific demographic.

Numbers are great, but they're meaningless without context.

My anecdotes are examples of why that may be, as looking at the same or similar problems from different perspectives can help you gain a better understanding.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This actual data is not necessarily representative of the entire situation

You keep saying that, but never back it up with any reason.

Everyone here agrees the data is incomplete, but that it's the best data we have. Only you keep implying that it's incorrect because [ever less verifiable, unspecified reasons]. Holy hypocrisy, batman.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I have not said the data is incorrect, I have said it is only representative of one type of piracy, exactly as the authors of the linked article as well as the original source of the data have.

I've simply made a point of highlighting this fact as the tiles don't make it very obvious.

Once again:

It should be noted, as Torrent Freak does, these statistics only reflect a portion of any pirated content this year. The stats are specifically for single-episode torrents, rather than season-wide packages, and even more specifically they’re based on data from the torrenting platform BitTorrent. Just as television has grown and evolved across new formats in the last decade or so, so has piracy, with more and more people turning to sites hosting streams of pirated content, rather than “traditionally” pirating content through downloaded, local copies.