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[–] [email protected] 48 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This stuff just gets more terrifying by the day.

Are there democrats doing this sort of violent threats a lot? Do I miss those news stories because I am on Lemmy??

[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago

No. Any Democrat who said "we should execute all Republicans" would be shunned/called out by the rest of the party.

To give an example, look at the Bernie Sanders supporter who opened fire at a Congressional baseball game. Bernie quickly denounced this act of violence as did all other Democrats. Meanwhile, a large number of Republicans - including their likely Presidential candidate - call the January 6th insurrectionists "heroes" and "political prisoners" for violently invading the Capitol and wanting to kill Democrats (and Mike Pence).

And has any Republican denounced Nick Fuentes for calling for the execution of Jews? Stefanik was so "concerned" about anti-semitism on college campuses. Has she mentioned this once given that Fuentes has met with Trump?

Nope. Nothing. The best they can do is silence. Any other response they give is praise for the violent imagery or actions.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (3 children)

not really, no. There might have been one or two... But none of them were blatantly... awful...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago

Also, the difference is that if I saw a fellow democrat post GOP members in nooses I'd call him a fucking lunatic and tell him to get lost.

But, a republican would apparently elect him to office.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My mom is pretty vehemently anti trump, she has a Christmas ornament that says "fuck Trump" and a coffee mug that's says something to a similar effect. No effigies tho, but GOP had a pretty dark history with that one so it probably wasn't too deep in their playbook.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I mean... "fuck that guy" is pretty mild these days. a mere expression of... dislike...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The worse you get is a pulled fire alarm.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

arguably, he had justifications for that, too. (the GOP were calling a snap vote and he wanted time to read the bill. or so he said. Though also, I wouldn't be surprised if it really turned out, he was in a hurry, thought the door was supposed to be unlocked and got flustered enough to have pulled it by mistake. people in a hurry like that are... kinda dumb... )

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I thought the statement was that he thought triggering the alarm would open the door nearby, non?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yes.

Fire code generally requires that one can always get out. Locked doors that are used for egress have pull stations that frequently (at least in the US) look exactly like fire pulls. - Typically they’re blue or green instead of red with different relevant text. All anyone sees is “EMERGENCY” … which is why it’s usually considered bad practice to put fire pulls anywhere near a door now. (And I’m kind of surprised the complex had fire pulls at all, they generally generate far more false alarms than they do real ones- and the real pulls generally happen after smokes or other sensors. They also pose vulnerabilities of the “terrorists” kind.)

There was also speculation that he really did it to delay the vote. The bill didn’t get into his hands with enough time to review it; not even the promised window… and he was concerned that things might have been slipped in.

Either scenario is is plausible to me; in experience people confronted with a door they think should be unlocked get weird and dumb (I’ve been working in contract security for over 15 years. I’ve… seen a lot of dumb people locked out. My favorite is when they’re holding the key but can’t find it….I try not to laugh.)