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[–] [email protected] 379 points 1 year ago (33 children)

I’m glad to be totally off of Reddit now but I have to say, props to the mods doing this kind of stuff. It’s pretty hilarious

[–] [email protected] 128 points 1 year ago (5 children)

They're getting no end of grief from bad/paid actors though.

[–] [email protected] 120 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The amount of whinging and bootlicking from people taking Spez's side was insane before I left for good.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It doesn’t seem organic. Protest posts would get 95% upvotes, then suddenly 12 hours later get slammed with bootlickers and downvotes.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Reddit felt really astroturfed for years now. Start mentioning Neill Druckman in any capacity and your post immediately got flooded with copy paste hate centered on TLoU2. It seemed organic at the time, but when the TV series came out it was very sus, as if somebody had forgotten to turn off their bot army.

[–] vlad76 4 points 1 year ago

For me the shadyness started when they started hiding the up/down vote counter. That's when I knew that the platform was going to devolve.

[–] prole 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What a weird thing to target with bots.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Transphobes came out of the woodwork for it. And not only were they annoying for the obvious reasons, but they've also poisoned the well for criticism. I loathed the plot, but I have to be careful with my criticism so I don't get lumped in with them.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

I've talked to a few that seemed organic, but those were basically people who wanted Reddit to get back to normal and not waste time on bullshit that didn't affect them personally.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

i did check in a few communities that i was engaging with before, and honestly, it seemed organic, but it was always lurkers/semi-lurkers who don't post and only comment like once every two months. accounts for the delay as well, because they don't check reddit that often (before everything went to shit posts would usually be gathering views for a good 24 hours)

but reddit also started using chatgpt to prop itself up lately (which afaik is against chatgpt's tos, so that's nice for the future lawsuit if they wanna cash in), so idk. that does put a damper on their legitimacy.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wasn’t it proven that majority of the positive spez posts are from bots or chatgpt or something?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

At least one post was defending reddit in r/programming has been shown to be chatGPT, that's for sure. If they have one bot, who's to say they don't have thousands?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I can't tell you how many 1-2 year old accounts I saw with little to no post history that popped out of the woodwork to defend reddit/spez. It was crazy.

Same for spam/ shill accounts on iPhone/ Google play reviews.

They're definitely trying to plug the holes with bubble gum instead of fixing/ addressing the problem which is spez and the 3rd party app/api ban.

[–] player1 -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Although it may be disappointing for some, Reddit's decision to shut off third-party API applications is understandable from a security and user experience standpoint. By controlling the access points to its platform, Reddit can ensure a safer and more consistent experience for its users. Third-party apps, while offering additional features, can also introduce vulnerabilities and compromise user data if not properly regulated. Reddit's action aims to safeguard user privacy, prevent abuse, and maintain the integrity of its platform. While change can be challenging, it's important to prioritize the security and well-being of the community.

[–] JamesStallion 3 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] player1 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Before I left I tried engaging with some of them, the only one to have a discussion was either a very fast typist or was doing a copy/paste. Their arguments weren't really consistent and only made sense independently, they claimed to have read transcripts of the Apollo dev interview with the Verge and various other sources but completely misrepresented or ignored basically every detail that made Reddit look bad. It did not feel like a genuine discussion with someone who actually believed their own arguments or was interested in anything other than muddying the waters in defense of Reddit management.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You just described Reddit in general

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

No doubt, but they've really ramped up lately. It's like all the manchildren from t_D suddenly saw their chance to be assholes again without consequence.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The un-moderated right wing shit has been very pronounced on Reddit the last few weeks.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

.. because Glorious Leader is a far right wing turd.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Watch r/ conservative and r/ conspiracy become default subs lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone would even notice next to the garbage that's already served by default on Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Going to the front page not logged in is like visiting YouTube outside of your account. It's fucking trash.

[–] gravitas_deficiency 5 points 1 year ago

It’s almost as if making changes that are blatantly hostile to the unpaid group of people who literally keep your site from devolving into a cesspool on a daily basis isn’t the best of ideas…

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

This is how the playbook for Fascism works.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I look at it this way: it sucks, but it's not surprising - it's expected. There's no reason for them to cater to the users, because that's not how these things work. The people who made this decision

(a) mostly care about money

(b) were obviously willing to lose the favor of Reddit's users for money

(c) have built a platform who's monetization model has become somewhat at odds with what made Reddit good in the first place

(d) are probably going to succeed in making money from Reddit

It's sad, it really sucks. But, there's nothing we can really do about it, apart from things like post memes mocking Spez or making subreddits go "dark".

Neither of those are long term solutions.

I'd rather we moved on and let it go, tbh. We could be doing a lot more

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Almost like they're being paid to do it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Depending on what time you posted, you could get two totally different responses to a post.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup, before the 1st I was getting mass harassed by what were clearly new accounts for pointing out the responders were clearly copying/pasting from a script.

But once that was pointed out, only 12 year old accounts with little posting history showed up lol, which seemed bizarre.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I had a guy try to justify the latter type of account as "I'm just not very active on reddit". My man, you made one post, commented on one other post a few weeks later, then complete radio silence for 9 years, just to pop up spreading anti-trans propaganda on post after post?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I hope they don't bend to them. Reddit fully deserves this level of overt trolling at this point.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Literally nothing new. - A Reddit Mod. There's a lot of power tripping shitty mods, but a lot don't deserve half the grief they get. Some people tend to take out a lot of negativity on mods when they cannot see the human.

The griefing doesn't look good for Reddit either. Harassing your unpaid volunteers = excellent investment, probably, I guess. Maybe it does, controversy keeps people engaged.

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