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Currently I'm using Joplin with Syncthing-backed file system synchronization. I'm pretty pleased with it, as I do like tagging- and Markdown-based systems.

I plan to upgrade to server-based synchronization, but before doing that, however, I wanted to see what other people are using.

Edit: So far I see a slight favor towards Joplin and Logseq, but I totally didn't expect (and appreciate) getting so many different answers.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Joplin. Obsidian is not open source, doesn’t have native self hosting and it gets complicated. Joplin is very simple and just works. Although, it stores the notes in a hashed database, so you can’t edit raw files without Joplin client

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

Good call on Obsidian not being FOSS! I don't know that.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Trilium for the same reasons, but the featureset of Trilium is more like Obsidian.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

~~Trillium was originally created to be an open source replacement for Roam Research.~~ Trilium came out in 2017, and had Roam-like features before Roam even existed. It's similarities to Obsidian are purely coincidental, probably because Obsidian is designed to be a cross between Roam and Evernote.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Please, I don't want to be rude, so don't take me wrong.

I think that's not accurate. Trillium is not even an outliner, let alone a block note taking app. I think you're mixing trillium with Logseq.

My memory may be failing me, but I think trillium has been around longer than Roam Research.

And yes, it's a great open source note taking app!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I started using Trilium in early 2020, with version 0.40.2. Roam had released in 2019 and was growing in popularity quickly, I heard a lot about Roam, it looked cool, so I googled for an open-source self-hosted knowledge base note taking app with similar features to Roam, like notes arranged in a knowledge graph, and a backlinks explorer for each note. The only one that was available then was trilium. Looks like you're right, the development of trilium was started in 2017, before Roam existed. This is a great interview with the creator, answers a lot of the questions I had. https://console.substack.com/p/console-169

Obsidian didn't come out until a few months later (and remained under the radar until 2021), all my colleagues and friends use Obsidian now, but I prefer trilium. I had never heard of logseq before I read this thread. Just a quick glance, I see the first 0.1.0 version logseq was in April 2021, just before the first obsidian release.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Problem with Joplin: The raw files are randomly named so you can't easily find a specific note

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That's not even the bigger problem. I found the desktop ui very clunky. There were too many papercuts for me to keep using joplin. However, its TUI and mobile app are excellent.