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Mercedes-Benz debuts turquoise exterior lights to indicate the car is self-driving | A visual indicator for other drivers::undefined

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Do the same thing, but hook it up to a camera that detects if your eyes are on the road lol.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most FSD cars have that. People just ignore the warnings and popups.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The car should pull over then. Lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Should, but when has that ever stopped businesses from doing what is cheap/easy?

[–] jo3shmoo 5 points 1 year ago

My aftermarket Openpilot setup does this with a camera pointed at the driver. I'm good about paying attention but apparently if it alerts too many times that you're distracted it will disable itself until you restart the car.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The reason for these lights is that Mercedes has Level 3 autonomy, so the car can self drive without the driver taking attention - for example here in Germany it is illegal (and there are photo traps) to use your phone on while driving. The lights are a solution to the exemption that you are allowed to use your phone while your car is on Level 3 autonomy.

On level 3 you need to be able to take over again within 30 seconds after the car actively asks you to do so.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

30 seconds is a LOT of time.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah that last bit. That's unacceptable for at least another decade. Drivers should be responsible for their vehicles at all times.

[–] leviathan3k 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The level 3 autonomy is under extremely limited circumstances, which are basically on the bighway under 40 mph. These are basically the safest possible conditions to have level 3, and it is the right place to start.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not against them starting it. I'm against them telling the drivers they can take their hands off the wheel, their feet off the pedal, and watch media on the center console. We aren't there yet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Level 3 autonomy is exactly that. Mercedes allows you to do other things than driving in specific situations like specific (!) highways etc.

BMW also has Level 3 on low speeds on specific highways.

This is not autonomy in all situations but only during the day, no rain etc.

For limited situations the car fully takes over and in case of an accident it is legally Mercedes' or BMW's responsibility not the driver.

That specific situation is indicated by the lights.

It will not drive autonomously in a city or so or where pedestrians are.