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[–] Enkers 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

First of all, I find the premise that other people would think that dubious at best, but let's assume it's true. What are the consequences of someone else thinking you're gay? Are you the victim of thought-crime? This sounds more like self victimization.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago

Its called social stigma. Its been a thing ever since socialization has been a thing. Social pressures are a very real thing. Its not like men woke up one day and decided "you know what? I'm gonna be homophobic today, sounds like a real trip!"

Obviously personal choice is a factor, and a major one at that... but its far from the only one.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Lot of irrelevant content here.

I find the premise that other people would think that dubious at best

Not relevant. What matters is that the men surveyed felt like they would be thought of that way.

What are the consequences of someone else thinking you're gay?

That also isn't a rebuttal to my argument. What matters is that these men feel like they'll be thought of as gay and they feel like that's a bad thing. These feelings don't form in a vacuum. They're taught and reinforced to people in society over generations.

Let's suppose that the poll said, "8/10 of men are afraid of wearing slim jeans out of fear of being called gay." Would it not be the obvious conclusion that they're victims of the patriarchy^1. Neither of the two actions are exclusive to being gay in any way, but society teaches individuals to associate the two.


  1. Patriarchy not being the worship of male over female but the masculine over the feminine. See why traditionally feminine-acting men achieve less success than masculine men, or masculine women over feminine women.