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[–] [email protected] 99 points 11 months ago (52 children)

Something that people should keep in mind is that the fees were lower for those "out-of-province" students in Québec than in their own province.

This fee raise basically brings it on par with what they would pay in their on province. One of the reasoning behind this law is that Québec shouldn't be subsidizing other provinces way too expensive university system.

If you are living in Québec, university fees are quite cheap, and this doesn't change.

The French vs English aspect is widely talked about, but not a whole lot is mentioned about the actual price hike.

[–] Kecessa 17 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The total fees for out of province students will still be lower than for out of province students in other provinces.

The fees for international students will still be lower than the fees for international students in other provinces.

In the only province where French is the only official language, French universities received less financing than English universities no matter the source, including from the provincial government. Donating to one's Alma Mater isn't part of the French Canadian culture for a ton of historical reasons, that leads to an university like McGill getting 200m$ from a single ex student and having over a billion sleeping in its coffers while the Université du Québec en Outaouais barely manages to offer basic services to its students.

Is it such a bad thing that the government asks that foreign students integrate themselves by learning the local language? That's an incentive for them to stay and it prevents the issue of having some of them stay without being able to speak the language, pretty much forcing them to live in one of three urban areas and their suburbs (Montreal, Gatineau, Sherbrooke).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Imagine calling your fellow countrymen foreigners.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

That's just a taste of how badly Quebec's nationalists try to create a rift. But they'll be the first to turn around and tell you that Anglos are the problem.

Cambridge dictionary definition of foreign: belonging or connected to a country that is not your own.

[–] Kecessa 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

See there's this thing we call "a definition" and that word is appropriate to the situation and if you think "foreigner" is pejorative then you're the one who's got an issue...

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is it federally legal for to discriminate based on language? Don't know, don't live there, really curious, though.

Or is this one if those things that have to be adjudicated in the courts?

[–] Kecessa 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

The law states that English universities can take in whoever they want, 80% must finish their degree having reached conversational level in French otherwise English universities will lose part of their funding (when they're the universities that are the richest in the province).

That's not language discrimination, that's just bad journalism.

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