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For my phone, I use Graphene OS. What would be the best desktop Linux option to match the level of security and privacy that GOS provides?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Chinese distros have backdoors for the Chinese government, intel and amd processors have backdoors for the US government

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Are there any proof of that ? (Chinese distros having backdoors).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

@CjkOvPDwQW @Shareni
I would not trust a CIA backed Linux distro either, proof or not.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't know of any specific proof, but just look at Deepin's EULA. You need to accept that pretty much all data that could be gathered will be gathered, even data like daily log in times. Stuff like that makes me believe stories that the CCP is forcing companies to add backdoors. Especially when you consider that Chinese hackers are analyzing and publishing findings on NSA Linux backdoors, and releasing new backdoor malware every few months.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So just a conspiracy theory then

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure buddy. In the meanwhile i think i answered your question:

What kind of point is that ? Are there any problem with chinese distro ?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, but from having an eula to having a backdoor goes a long way

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence, and so on. But yeah, I agree it's just a conspiracy theory for now

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most sane conversation I had online in a while.

On reddit thjs conversation would have been impossible

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Doubt everything, know that you know nothing

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

@CjkOvPDwQW China is a repressive surveillance state with a keen interest in spying on their own people who has conducted incredibly broad state sponsored industrial espionage.

Draw your own conclusions on whether such products are safe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really? About Intel and AMD, how? I'm just curious about that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Read up on the intel management engine. It's an extra chip that was included in pretty much every intel CPU since 2008. It's got pretty scary potential, but no alphabet agency has yet declassified their info on it (think CIA denying any involvement in shipping and selling heroin, but then declassifying documents that proved they shipped heroin in coffins and bodies of dead soldiers).

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're pretty deep in the tinfoil hat zone now. CPU proprietary black box does not mean the NSA are trying to infiltrate your broken arch setup so they can let their FBI lizard agents steal ur hentai.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Oh for sure, but I'd be really surprised if the super secret black box that can't be completely expunged from your machine doesn't have anything to do with some alphabet agency.

After all, we know that NSA approached Linus to put in a backdoor (Linus's father, Linus), and that NSA linked groups have used Linux backdoor malware in the past.

That might be proof against IME being a backdoor, but it could also be a smoke screen and insurance.