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"If Putin wins in Ukraine, there is real risk that his aggression will not end there. Our support is not charity. It is an investment in our security," - NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg.

"The only way to reach a just and lasting solution is to convince President Putin that they will not win on the battlefield," @jensstoltenberg continued.

"And the only way to ensure that President Putin realises that he is not winning on the battlefield is to continue to support Ukraine."

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[–] ArbitraryValue 12 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Not just an investment but a really good one, with the cost in blood being paid by someone else. I don't understand why the usually hawkish Republicans don't see this. Is it just because Biden supports it? I wonder if they would be demanding intervention in Ukraine if Biden had decided to stay neutral...

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago

I don't understand why the usually hawkish Republicans don't see this.

You seriously think they don't see it? They're all either fully compromised or largely funded by Russia. These people aren't well-meaning citizens doing their best for America, they are fully loyal to Russia and all of this is a part of Russia's well-understood and plainly stated plan.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

they have been bought and paid for by Russia

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Liberals, and actual patriots, see what's happening in Ukraine and say, "This is terrible! It's an unprovoked attack on a sovereign nation!"

Fascists see it as, "Hey there sexy mama. You wanna kill all those 'other' people?"

The alt right has firmly placed itself as a voting bloc within the Republican party so yeah....fascist gonna fascism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I think their weird reversal on Ukraine mostly revolves around Zelensky not providing dirt on Biden when Trump demanded it, combined with Hunter Biden being involved in some Ukrainian oil company.

They now basically want Ukraine to burn because they didn't explicitly help their cult leader stay in power.