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Linux is all good if you only play singleplayer games. My friends started playing the finals yesterday and it doesn't run on linux because of EAC. Windows can run all my games without any proton switching and all the nvidia features like ray reconstruction and pathtracing with frame generation just works (alan wake 2 looks so good).

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Popping into a Linux community to stick your tongue out and letting folks know you are going back to Windows? That's no better than a troll.

This post is opening up a discussion on game compatibility on Linux. Switching back to Windows is just one point OP made, which you decided to focus on.

If you decide to view this as a troll, you should also condone the people who invade Windows-related Lemmy posts just to advocate for Linux.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you decide to view this as a troll, you should also condone the people who invade Windows-related Lemmy posts just to advocate for Linux.

If someone makes a top level post about it, yes I would, for the same reasons.

If it's a comment that flows naturally from conversation, I don't see the problem. (in either case)

But I think you meant condemn, not condone.

Switching back to Windows is just one point OP made, which you decided to focus on.

It's literally the only point they made. The rest is their justification for that point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But I think you meant condemn, not condone.

You're right, I used the wrong word.

It's literally the only point they made. The rest is their justification for that point.

As a community we will achieve nothing if we dismiss these posts as "op said windows is better". We should be looking into why they feel how they feel.

Suboptimal game compatibility on Linux is a point that should not be discounted. We know that Linux is mostly there already, but there's still some amount to go.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I don't feel the need to sell Linux to someone who isn't interested or who has already decided they are going back to Windows.

OP didn't ask for help. OP said "This one game doesn't work for me, gaming on Linux is a pain in the ass, I'm going back to Windows." (paraphrasing)

You are not going to convince me coddling those kinds of posts is beneficial to the community.

I'd use BSD or even (shudder) MacOS before I used Windows - and while not everyone needs to feel that way, I reject on its face the idea that the primary goal of the Linux community is to endlessly try to convince people who have decided to go back to Windows not to go back to windows.

I use Linux because I like Linux. I like to interact with people who like Linux. I love to help people who want to learn to like Linux.

If someone looks at the totality of awfulness that is Windows and MS (and i say that as someone who supports Windows on the sever and the desktop) and decides it's worth it to go back because they want to play a specific game, that's fine, but I feel no obligation to beg and cajole them to come back, and I bristle at the implication that I, or the community at large, should.

I'm also not going to pretend that a post saying they are doing so is in any way a contribution to the linux community. It's not. At worst it's a troll and thumb of the nose as they head out the door, and at best it's unhelpful, and points the finger at Linux when that's not where the finger belongs.

Did no one know this game didn't work until OP posted about it? Did OP contact the DEV to let them know they should do things differently? Has our understanding of the state of gaming on Linux been enhanced in any way? No, probably not, and no.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I still believe OP has given us something to discuss here by pointing out the current state of game compatibility.

If you don't, then I suppose there's nothing for you to see here.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 2 points 9 months ago

Feel free to make another post to discuss it then. Something like, "Games that don't work on Linux because of EAC - links to voice your support for Linux compatibility included." That's constructive and can get into how to best ask for support (e.g. I want to play on my Steam Deck, but this needs Linux EAC support enabled).

But saying "I'm bailing on Windows because of game X" isn't helpful, it's just complaining. Instead of that, focus that frustration onto something constructive that might actually solve the problem.